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Post  Bill Schaefer on Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:18 am

With the season winding down, I thought it would be good to start working again on our remaining gaps...
Here's what's left of 1952. Remember, we need solid photographic proof.

What we are unsure of is in bold...
10/5 (D) – WASH @ GB
10/18 (N) – GB @ DAL

9/28 (D) – Bears @ GB
9/29 (N) – WASH @ CARDS
10/5 (D) – Bears @ CARDS
10/12 (D) – CARDS @ WASH
10/12 (D) – LA @ GB
11/9 (D) – LA @ DAL
11/16 (D) – DAL @ DET
11/27 (D) – Bears @ DAL
12/14 (D) – PHIL @ Wash


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Re: 1952 missing game photos - 2 left

Post  BD Sullivan on Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:43 pm

Bill Schaefer wrote:With the season winding down, I thought it would be good to start working again on our remaining gaps...
Here's what's left of 1952. Remember, we need solid photographic proof.

11/27 (D) – Bears @ DAL

A photo from the Cleveland Plain Dealer (the game was played in nearby Akron) shows Texan runing back Zollie Toth (#36) leaping into the end zone. He (and a teammate in the background) is wearing a white jersey--with the three stripes. What's odd is that the pants (which are gray according to the database) look incredibly white (or at least very similar to the jersey) in the photo.

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Post  BD Sullivan on Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:19 pm

Bill Schaefer wrote:With the season winding down, I thought it would be good to start working again on our remaining gaps...
Here's what's left of 1952. Remember, we need solid photographic proof.

What we are unsure of is in bold...

9/28 (D) – Bears @ GB
9/29 (D) – WASH @ CARDS
10/5 (D) – Bears @ CARDS
10/12 (D) – CARDS @ WASH

*9/28: Green Bay is wearing their gold jerseys and green pants. The photo from the front sports page of the 9/29 Chicago Tribune shows a MUCH lighter uniform than the Bears' Navy blue, whatever. Thankfully, I also jotted down "dark pants" as well.

1/20 EDIT: After a re-check, here's a summary of the latter three:

9/29 (From pg. F1 of the 9/30 Chicago Tribune): Both teams wore dark jerseys, and the Cardinals' helmets are definitely not white. That would seem to indicate that the Cardinals wore their red jerseys--but given that the Redskins wore their maroon jerseys that night, you would think the Cards would have worn the blues, especially since it was a night game. Any suggestions?

10/5 (From pg. F4 of the 10/6 Chicago Tribune): The Cardinals definitely wore white helmets, and given the fact that the Bears only wore their dark blues in '52, logic would suggest that the Cards wore their red jerseys to avoid confusion.

10/12 (From pg. F3 of the 10/13 Chicago Tribune): The Cardinals definitely wore their white helmets and their jerseys appear lighter in the B&W photo.

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Re: 1952 missing game photos - 2 left

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:19 pm

"9/29 (From pg. F1 of the 9/30 Chicago Tribune): Both teams wore dark jerseys, and the Cardinals' helmets are definitely not white. That would seem to indicate that the Cardinals wore their red jerseys--but given that the Redskins wore their maroon jerseys that night, you would think the Cards would have worn the blues, especially since it was a night game. Any suggestions?"

Hmmm. My source says that the game was still a day game. (But I have found typos in it before.)
Notwithstanding, with proof that even teams like the Steelers and Browns went black vs brown for night games in this era, I don't think it's a reach to say that the game could have been Washington burgundy (gold helmets) vs Cards red (red helmets). The question is would the Cards have worn blue jerseys while wearing the red helmet AND being at home. Its been my understanding that teams like the Cards only used their 'alternate' jersey on the road - not at home.

Tim? What do you think?
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Post  Tommy F on Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:45 pm

Another site Timmy introduced me to says Cardinals-Redskins was played on Monday night, the 29th.

http://www.the506.com/smf/index.php?topic=2645.0


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Re: 1952 missing game photos - 2 left

Post  Bill Schaefer on Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:38 pm

Needed a bump.
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Re: 1952 missing game photos - 2 left

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:55 pm

Without membership I can't zoom enough to take a large screen capture but the photos are large enough to see without it.
GB is in green jerseys and khaki pants.

http://newspaperarchive.com/long-beach-press-telegram/1952-10-13/page-10/

I think it around page 14.
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Re: 1952 missing game photos - 2 left

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:12 pm

Same place...

11/9 LA @ DAL

Dallas is rocking the monowhites.

http://newspaperarchive.com/long-beach-press-telegram/1952-11-10/page-16/
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Post  Bill Schaefer on Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:47 am

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Post  Bill Schaefer on Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:06 pm

http://newspaperarchive.com/independent-long-beach/1952-11-17/page-16?tag=texans+lions

Lions in blue over grey with silver lids
Texans in white over...I'm calling it white so there would be contrast with Lions' grey pants.

Going to keep looking to see if I can find a clearer shot of Texans' pants. Looks from the photo to have been a rainy/muddy game so telling the difference between white and grey pants may be tough.
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Post  Bill Schaefer on Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:31 pm

From Tim (live at the LOC)

9/29 (D) was actually 9/30 (N):
WSH at CC: WSH gold/bugundy/gold/burgundy. CC: red/red/white/red. (Chicago Tribune)
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Post  Bill Schaefer on Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:35 pm

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1952, Nov 16 - Texans at Lions and 1952, Sept 28 Giants at Texans

Post  Mako Mameli on Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:51 am

I decided to brush up on this thread because I have 2 new photos

Bill Schaefer wrote:Lions in blue over grey with silver lids
Texans in white over...I'm calling it white so there would be contrast with Lions' grey pants.

Going to keep looking to see if I can find a clearer shot of Texans' pants. Looks from the photo to have been a rainy/muddy game so telling the difference between white and grey pants may be tough.


http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/16/58/29/23/58998410.jpg

And this one... note the belts color (both teams)


http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/16/58/29/23/59607110.jpg

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