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Post  dirwuf on Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:08 pm

I think we should have a thread to post uniform and helmet oddities...stuff that perhaps one player wore and doesn't really qualify for a separate entry in the database...

Let me start with Miami Dolphins running back Norm Bulaich...



Bulaich played with the Dolphins from 1975 to 1979; I'm not sure when this particular photo was taken...

Note the helmet logo, it's the infamous Dolphin "inside the sun", which the team had abandoned after Super Bowl VIII in January 1974. This photo also shows guard Larry Little wearing the common post-1973 logo. (Other than the 1994 throwback) Bulaich was the only player to wear this logo after Super Bowl VIII...and he wore it for a while before changing to the common version.

I recalled this anomaly for decades before coming across this photo as proof. One thing to note is that Bulaich had concussion problems during his career, so perhaps the Dolphins issued him a special helmet that they dug out with the old logo...just a theory.


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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  Rob Holecko on Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:38 pm

well, that railing in the background looks like the Vet, so I'm guessing that's 9-24-78 at Philadelphia, although I guess it could be St. Louis or Pittsburgh
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80's Redskins

Post  Bill Schaefer on Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:18 pm

Weren't there a couple of 'Skins that wore the 'curved feathers' decal beyond 1982? I want to say Joe Washington and Dave Butz but I'm not sure.
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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  Rob Holecko on Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:22 pm

That's the first time I ever noticed the curved feather on the '82 Skins helmet -- yet the 72-81 helmet was the same as 83-on ... so they won the Super Bowl in the first year with that helmet, yet they changed it back !?
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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  slats7 on Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:25 pm

Calvin Hill: no stripes on the sleeves.

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Post  Rob Holecko on Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:36 pm

dirwuf wrote:I think we should have a thread to post uniform and helmet oddities...stuff that perhaps one player wore and doesn't really qualify for a separate entry in the database...

Let me start with Miami Dolphins running back Norm Bulaich...



Bulaich played with the Dolphins from 1975 to 1979; I'm not sure when this particular photo was taken, but the oddity I'm pointing out occurred over a season or two.

Notice the helmet logo, it's the infamous Dolphin "inside the sun", which the team had abandoned after Super Bowl VIII (January 1974). This photo also shows guard Larry Little wearing the common post-1973 logo. Other than the 1994 throwback, Bulaich was the only player to wear this logo after Super Bowl VIII...and he wore it for a while before eventually changing to the common version.

I had recalled this anomaly for decades before coming across this picture as proof. One thing that strikes me is the difference in his helmet striping than the rest of the team. The thinness and spacing are much more in line with the Dolphins 1969 helmets (which also bore the "inside the sun" logo)...so perhaps Bulaich was actually using a 1969 helmet! Just a theory...

I can confirm Bulaich was still wearing the "dolphin in the sun" helmet 11/20/78 on MNF against the Oilers. He must've just liked that 1969 helmet and kept it his whole career.

















Also, notice while many of the Dolphins have all 5 stripes showing, a good many of them, Griese and two others in the top picture in particular, have their sleeves cut off, only showing three stripes. I guess that was common, like the Calvin Hill picture.

About the Redskin helmets, this page confirms most of what we have in the database, except the "spider" pattern helmet it says Sammy Baugh wore in 1939, which we don't have in the database:

http://www.helmethut.com/skinsdept.html


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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  dirwuf on Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:47 pm

Rob Holecko wrote:I can confirm Bulaich was still wearing the "dolphin in the sun" helmet 11/20/78 on MNF against the Oilers. He must've just liked that 1969 helmet and kept it his whole career.

That scenario doesn't work as he played the first 5 years of his career with the Colts and Eagles, not joining Miami until 1975...so the helmet was laying around for 5 seasons before Bulaich nabbed it...

it's just a longshot theory
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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  Rob Holecko on Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:50 pm

let me restate... "he must've liked that 1969 helmet when he got it in 1975 and kept it the rest of his career" Smile
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Super Bowl oddity

Post  Bill Schaefer on Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:52 pm

Kent Hull (#67) liked his 1989 pants sooooo much, he kept wearing them even to the 1992 Super Bowl (in 1993). No wonder they lost by 100 pts! Shocked
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Hull wore those same pants in SBXXV too.

Post  bigbluelarry on Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:25 am


In this picture he's just to the left of #74 Erik Howard.


This is a good picture because you can see his pants stripes actually look more like the Giants than the rest of the Bills!


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Giants at LA Rams 1976.

Post  bigbluelarry on Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:57 am

The RB #24 is wearing the Giants 1975 white socks (the stripes match the jersey sleeves), the rest of the team is wearing the 1976 version.



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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  LarryB on Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:44 pm



From the Cleveland Memory Project site posted on here. The Giants # 20 helmet decal is reversed, like a negative image.

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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  timmyb on Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:10 pm

Good stuff, guys! Keep it coming!

One thing on that helmet claim of Slingin' Sammy. I'm not so sure that was used for at least regular season play. Don't recall ever seeing the 'Skins wearing a spider stripe design in the leatherhead era.

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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  Market42 on Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:29 pm

Rob Holecko wrote:

Also, notice while many of the Dolphins have all 5 stripes showing, a good many of them, Griese and two others in the top picture in particular, have their sleeves cut off, only showing three stripes. I guess that was common, like the Calvin Hill picture.


I just noticed that when I was watching that Earl Campbell Monday nighter last week.

As for the curled feathers, if I remember correctly Joe Washington was the only player on the 1982 Redskins NOT to use that logo.

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Redskins Variation

Post  Milwaukee T on Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:25 am

It was mentioned here about the 82 feathers. Shortly after the Packers won the last Super Bowl, there wasa series of shows concerning the 82 playoffs. One thing that was very noticable was that you would see bothe feather style on the lines at the same time. Watching for it made it almost difficult to watch as it was jumping out on every play. Not certain about 83 as I have not come across any from that season, but 82 did have both used at the same time.
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1990 Buffalo Bills

Post  Market42 on Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:03 pm

Was watching a NFL Network re-air of Super Bowl XXV that I recorded a few years ago, and it reminded me of a variation I hadn't seen mentioned.

Apparently for 1990, the Buffalo Bills had switched from 2 stripes on the sleeves to one stripe; but I saw three players (Scott Norwood, James Lofton and Mark Kelso) that still had the "2-stripe" variant for at least that season.

(Will add pictures I find online or {if later on} screencaps)

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AAFC Browns - Marion Motley

Post  Bill Schaefer on Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:45 pm

I'm not sure if we've had this one on here but...



I'm guessing this is Cleveland at the LA Dons sometime from '46-'49 (AAFC)
Motley's jersey numbers seemed odd to me. His 6's drop-shadow went up to the right instead of down to the left like everyone else pictured. Then I figured it out. By the time the equipment manager got around to #76, he was probably out of 6s. So he did the next best thing...he turned a 9 upside down. Hence the 'drop-shadow' goes up to the right!
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St.Louis @ Giants 9/19/11

Post  bigbluelarry on Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:50 am

Here's something that came to my attention this morning from last night's game (didn't notice while watching).

There is a Ram defender (haven't seen another pic showing a number or name) who is wearing all-white socks.



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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:40 am

Any word on the size of the UNI-FINE he received?
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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  bigbluelarry on Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:41 am

I haven't seen any report of a fine, but I did put a name and number on the culprit - Chris Long.

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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  mplund on Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:10 am

I'm not sure this can be considered conclusive, but Curley Culp's Dungard facemask sure looks white compared to the Other Oilers' gray masks. This would certainly be an oddity since the Oilers never officially paired white masks with the Columbia blue helmets. Even Ted Washington's Dungard looks much more gray by comparison in the second photo.

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/defensive-end-elvin-bethea-linebacker-steve-kiner-and-news-photo/80031269

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/linebacker-ted-washington-of-the-houston-oilers-sacks-news-photo/78533161

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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  timmyb on Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:55 am

Milwaukee T wrote:It was mentioned here about the 82 feathers. Shortly after the Packers won the last Super Bowl, there wasa series of shows concerning the 82 playoffs. One thing that was very noticable was that you would see bothe feather style on the lines at the same time. Watching for it made it almost difficult to watch as it was jumping out on every play. Not certain about 83 as I have not come across any from that season, but 82 did have both used at the same time.

If I recall correctly from the 1982 season (shortened by a long players strike), the only two players who had a straight feathered decal were Joe Washington and Dave Butz.

Washington had a Kelley model hemet that he wore at Oklahoma and kept that helmet his whole career. Supposedly, the Kelley helmet had a clear shell in which the colors and logos were painted on from the inside. Since changing the Skins logo from the striaght feathers to the curled feathers, I guess the Redskins equipment guys just let it go, and got the OK from the NFL.

As for Butz, I'm not sure of the reason. But Butz loved to have his helmet's battle scars (gouges, scratches, dings, etc.) not cleaned up and polished over, but remain there unblemished, perhaps a sign of "macho." However, IIRC, late in the season, the decal got so smudged up to the point of illegibility that I think he relented and the curled feather logos were applied to his helmet.

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Bills - Jets Wild Card 1981

Post  bigbluelarry on Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:09 pm

Inspired by today's blog...

Joe Cribbs wore a grey facemask during Buffalo's win at Shea Stadium against the Jets:


The rest of the Bills, of course, wore blue facemasks...

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Re: POST YOUR ODDITIES!

Post  Rob Holecko on Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:36 pm

Thanks, Larry... added to the article
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1990 Bills Double Stripes

Post  Market42 on Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:15 pm

Market42 wrote:Was watching a NFL Network re-air of Super Bowl XXV that I recorded a few years ago, and it reminded me of a variation I hadn't seen mentioned.

Apparently for 1990, the Buffalo Bills had switched from 2 stripes on the sleeves to one stripe; but I saw three players (Scott Norwood, James Lofton and Mark Kelso) that still had the "2-stripe" variant for at least that season.

(Will add pictures I find online or {if later on} screencaps)

Found an example (mentioned this earlier but that post disappeared) of Scott Norwood after his Super Bowl misfire -- with the two stripes clearly visible




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