Next on the belt correction list - the Denver Broncos (and KC)!
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Next on the belt correction list - the Denver Broncos (and KC)!
I'll apologize upfront Bill, but here's what I've found so far [this list is not yet comprehensive]
Working backward from 1977 - belts are blue
Denver @ Cincinnati 10/23/77
Denver @ San Diego 11/13/77
PreSeason Devner vs St.Louis 9/14/75
Denver vs San Diego 10/20/74
Denver vs Kansas City 10/7/73 {KC belts white}
Denver @ Pittsburgh 11/18/73
1972 - belts are white
Denver @ LA Rams 11/12/72
Denver @ Oakland 12/19/71 - white belts with the orange pants too
Denver vs Kansas City 10/4/70 - are these belts orange or blue?
1970 - orange belts with orange pants
Denver @ San Diego 11/8/70
Denver vs Kansas City 10/5/69 - white belts with white pants
Denver @ Kansas City 11/27/69 - blue belts with orange pants {KC belts white}
Denver @ Boston 11/3/68
Denver @ San Diego 10/20/68
More digging needs to be done!
Working backward from 1977 - belts are blue
Denver @ Cincinnati 10/23/77
Denver @ San Diego 11/13/77
PreSeason Devner vs St.Louis 9/14/75
Denver vs San Diego 10/20/74
Denver vs Kansas City 10/7/73 {KC belts white}
Denver @ Pittsburgh 11/18/73
1972 - belts are white
Denver @ LA Rams 11/12/72
Denver @ Oakland 12/19/71 - white belts with the orange pants too
Denver vs Kansas City 10/4/70 - are these belts orange or blue?
1970 - orange belts with orange pants
Denver @ San Diego 11/8/70
Denver vs Kansas City 10/5/69 - white belts with white pants
Denver @ Kansas City 11/27/69 - blue belts with orange pants {KC belts white}
Denver @ Boston 11/3/68
Denver @ San Diego 10/20/68
More digging needs to be done!
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Re: Next on the belt correction list - the Denver Broncos (and KC)!
Plugging some holes in the timeline.
Denver vs Detroit HOF Game Canton 1976
Denver @ Chicago 12/12/76
Denver vs San Diego 11/11/73
Denver vs Kansas City 10/1/72
Denver @ Chicago 1971 pre season
Denver vs Pittsburgh 9/27/70 blue belts with white pants
Denver vs NY Jets [Floyd Little having trouble keeping his pants up with whatever that is, the rest of the Broncos appear to have blue belts]
Denver vs Cincinnati 12/14/69 [there's a blue belt behind that watermark]
Denver @ Oakland 9/10/67
Denver @ NY Jets [more than one style belt here...]
Denver @ Kansas City 12/8/63 {both teams white}
Denver @ New York Titans 9/30/62
Denver @ Houston 12/2/62
Denver vs Detroit HOF Game Canton 1976
Denver @ Chicago 12/12/76
Denver vs San Diego 11/11/73
Denver vs Kansas City 10/1/72
Denver @ Chicago 1971 pre season
Denver vs Pittsburgh 9/27/70 blue belts with white pants
Denver vs NY Jets [Floyd Little having trouble keeping his pants up with whatever that is, the rest of the Broncos appear to have blue belts]
Denver vs Cincinnati 12/14/69 [there's a blue belt behind that watermark]
Denver @ Oakland 9/10/67
Denver @ NY Jets [more than one style belt here...]
Denver @ Kansas City 12/8/63 {both teams white}
Denver @ New York Titans 9/30/62
Denver @ Houston 12/2/62
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Re: Next on the belt correction list - the Denver Broncos (and KC)!
A few from Getty Images
Denver vs Buffalo 9/21/64 & 12/13/64
Denver @ Buffalo 12/18/66
Denver @ NY Jets 10/13/68
Denver vs Kansas City 12/14/68 {following the one-thing-leads-to-another theme...the KC belts are white AND black}
Denver @ Kansas city 11/27/69 {white KC belts again}
Denver vs Cleveland 12/20/70
Denver @ Buffalo 10/5/75
Denver vs Buffalo 9/21/64 & 12/13/64
Denver @ Buffalo 12/18/66
Denver @ NY Jets 10/13/68
Denver vs Kansas City 12/14/68 {following the one-thing-leads-to-another theme...the KC belts are white AND black}
Denver @ Kansas city 11/27/69 {white KC belts again}
Denver vs Cleveland 12/20/70
Denver @ Buffalo 10/5/75
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Re: Next on the belt correction list - the Denver Broncos (and KC)!
Kansas City Chiefs - might as well finish the AFC West, right?
Kansas City vs Oakland 12/8/74 - red belts with white pants
Kansas City vs Cleveland 12/2/73
Kansas City vs NY Giants HOF Game Canton 7/29/72 - red belts with white pants
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Kansas City @ Chicago pre season 1972
Kansas City @ San Diego 11/19/72 - white belts with red pants
Kansas City @ Atlanta 12/17/72
Kansas City @ NY Jets 11/7/71 red belts with white pants
Kansas City @ Detroit 11/25/71
Kansas City @ Oakland 12/12/70 - both black and white
Super Bowl IV - both black and white
Kansas City vs Oakland AFL Championship 1/4/70 - both black and white belts
Kansas City @ NY Jets 11/16/69
pre season 1969 - this pic is my favorite, what the hell is Jan Stenerud wearing here? There's no way that belt is team issued. It looks like he took it from a pair of bell bottoms at home!
Super Bowl I 1/15/67 - a mix of white and black belts
Kansas City vs Denver 11/27/69 - a mix of black and white belts with white pants
Kansas City @ Cincinnati 11/10/68
Kansas City vs Oakland 12/8/74 - red belts with white pants
Kansas City vs Cleveland 12/2/73
Kansas City vs NY Giants HOF Game Canton 7/29/72 - red belts with white pants
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/102979579-kicker-jan-stenerud-of-the-kansas-city-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=R4V%2fQay2ANwpmCZhkZDSEkPTcfho3A0500RsDKyctIGoZa3jy37sPNfOC40gu65dSgw98e9W3LRnvhpCNYnSrw%3d%3d
Kansas City @ Chicago pre season 1972
Kansas City @ San Diego 11/19/72 - white belts with red pants
Kansas City @ Atlanta 12/17/72
Kansas City @ NY Jets 11/7/71 red belts with white pants
Kansas City @ Detroit 11/25/71
Kansas City @ Oakland 12/12/70 - both black and white
Super Bowl IV - both black and white
Kansas City vs Oakland AFL Championship 1/4/70 - both black and white belts
Kansas City @ NY Jets 11/16/69
pre season 1969 - this pic is my favorite, what the hell is Jan Stenerud wearing here? There's no way that belt is team issued. It looks like he took it from a pair of bell bottoms at home!
Super Bowl I 1/15/67 - a mix of white and black belts
Kansas City vs Denver 11/27/69 - a mix of black and white belts with white pants
Kansas City @ Cincinnati 11/10/68
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Re: Next on the belt correction list - the Denver Broncos (and KC)!
So here's what I see for your Denver fixes...
1977 - blue
1976 - blue
1975 - blue
1974 - blue
1973 - blue
1972 - white
1971 - white
1970 - orange on orange pants, blue (or black) on white pants
1969 - white on white pants (also blue or black on white pants), blue on orange pants
1968 - orange on orange pants, blue or black on white pants
1967 - white
1966 - blue or black
1965 - white and black belts
1964 - white
1963 - white
1962 - white
1965-70 seems like it is problematic as multiple combinations appear. What's the majority?
1977 - blue
1976 - blue
1975 - blue
1974 - blue
1973 - blue
1972 - white
1971 - white
1970 - orange on orange pants, blue (or black) on white pants
1969 - white on white pants (also blue or black on white pants), blue on orange pants
1968 - orange on orange pants, blue or black on white pants
1967 - white
1966 - blue or black
1965 - white and black belts
1964 - white
1963 - white
1962 - white
1965-70 seems like it is problematic as multiple combinations appear. What's the majority?
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KC fixins
To summarize your KC finds...
1974 - red pants - ?
- white pants - red belt
1973 - red pants - ?
- white pants - red belt
1972 - red pants - white belt
- white pants - red belt
1971 - red pants - white belts
- white pants - red belt
1970 - red pants - white and black belts (see below)
- white pants - white and black belts
1969 - red pants - white and black belts
- white pants - white and black belts
1968 - red pants - (white and ?) black belts
- white pants - white and black belts (see below)
1967 - red pants - white and black belts
- white pants - white and black belts (see below)
We need more evidence to fill in gaps for these.
1974 - red pants - ?
- white pants - red belt
1973 - red pants - ?
- white pants - red belt
1972 - red pants - white belt
- white pants - red belt
1971 - red pants - white belts
- white pants - red belt
1970 - red pants - white and black belts (see below)
- white pants - white and black belts
1969 - red pants - white and black belts
- white pants - white and black belts
1968 - red pants - (white and ?) black belts
- white pants - white and black belts (see below)
1967 - red pants - white and black belts
- white pants - white and black belts (see below)
We need more evidence to fill in gaps for these.
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KC fixins...
Even without seeing red pants from 1973-74, I'm seeing mis-matched belts and pants from 1971-74 (red on white and white on red).
I haven't seen white belts on the 1968 red pants yet but otherwise we have seen evidence of both black and white belts on both the red and the white pants from 1967-70.
I haven't seen white belts on the 1968 red pants yet but otherwise we have seen evidence of both black and white belts on both the red and the white pants from 1967-70.
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Re: Next on the belt correction list - the Denver Broncos (and KC)!
Bill Schaefer wrote:So here's what I see for your Denver fixes...
1977 - blue
1976 - blue
1975 - blue
1974 - blue
1973 - blue
1972 - white
1971 - white
1970 - orange on orange pants, blue (or black) on white pants
1969 - white on white pants (also blue or black on white pants), blue on orange pants
1968 - orange on orange pants, blue or black on white pants
1967 - white
1966 - blue or black
1965 - white and black belts
1964 - white
1963 - white
1962 - white
1965-70 seems like it is problematic as multiple combinations appear. What's the majority?
I think '68-'69 is mostly blue on white, sometimes with a black or white substitution.
Prior years are mostly white, with some black showing up.
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Re: Next on the belt correction list - the Denver Broncos (and KC)!
Bill Schaefer wrote:To summarize your KC finds...
1974 - red pants - ?
- white pants - red belt
1973 - red pants - ?
- white pants - red belt
1972 - red pants - white belt
- white pants - red belt
1971 - red pants - white belts
- white pants - red belt
1970 - red pants - white and black belts (see below)
- white pants - white and black belts
1969 - red pants - white and black belts
- white pants - white and black belts
1968 - red pants - (white and ?) black belts
- white pants - white and black belts (see below)
1967 - red pants - white and black belts
- white pants - white and black belts (see below)
We need more evidence to fill in gaps for these.
I think '71-'75 is predominantly red belts with white pants and white belts with red pants.
Prior to that its mostly white belts with both pants, with black belts being liberally substituted.
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Re: Next on the belt correction list - the Denver Broncos (and KC)!
Kansas City @ St.Louis pre season 9/12/70
Kansas City @ Minnesota 9/20/70
Super Bowl IV 1/11/70
Kansas City vs Houston 10/12/69
Kansas City @ LA Rams pre season 8/23/69
Kansas City vs NY Jets 9/15/68
Kansas City @ NY Jets 12/10/67
Kansas City @ Oakland 10/1/67
Kansas City @ Minnesota 9/20/70
Super Bowl IV 1/11/70
Kansas City vs Houston 10/12/69
Kansas City @ LA Rams pre season 8/23/69
Kansas City vs NY Jets 9/15/68
Kansas City @ NY Jets 12/10/67
Kansas City @ Oakland 10/1/67
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Re: Next on the belt correction list - the Denver Broncos (and KC)!
The KC/NYJ photo from 9/15/68 shows both black and white belts for 1968's white pants.
We can now clearly say that they wore both black and white belts with both sets of pants from 1967-70.
If we could get some 'red pants' photos from '73 and '74, we could also say that they wore the mismatched belts (red and white) with pants (white and red) from 1971-74.
We can now clearly say that they wore both black and white belts with both sets of pants from 1967-70.
If we could get some 'red pants' photos from '73 and '74, we could also say that they wore the mismatched belts (red and white) with pants (white and red) from 1971-74.
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No evidence of black belts for '73 or '74.
Kansas City @ New England 9/23/73
Kansas City @ Denver 10/7/73
Kansas City @ Oakland 12/8/73
Undated '73
Kansas City @ St.Louis 12/1/74
Kansas City vs Oakland 12/8/74
Undated 1974
Kansas City @ New England 9/23/73
Kansas City @ Denver 10/7/73
Kansas City @ Oakland 12/8/73
Undated '73
Kansas City @ St.Louis 12/1/74
Kansas City vs Oakland 12/8/74
Undated 1974
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