Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?

BD Sullivan Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:34 pm

Is there a list of preseason games from roughly 1950 on that don't have uniform info, or has that already all been covered?

**Bill Schaefer** Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:34 pm

No we've haven't assembled any kind of list.
Most of the stuff that is labeled as 'preseason only' is stuff that we've just happened across. We notice something, do some digging, and POW - new stuff to add.
But, no, to the best of my knowledge no one is going out of their way to hunt for Preseason stuff.

Pro Football Archives lists all preseason, regular season, and post season games for all teams.
You can get a list of all games if you're interested.

http://www.profootballarchives.com/

**Bill Schaefer** Sat May 09, 2015 4:31 pm

As an amendment to my last entry...

Our own Tim Brulia has been painstakingly going through the preseasons. We are going to be adding a collection of preseason match-up pages similar to what we have for the regular seasons and playoffs.

Working backwards from 2012, Tim & I have found photos for almost every preseason game back to 1948.

Here is the list of preseason games that we do not have photos from...

"GAMES STILL MISSING - WITH RECENT FINDS DISCARDED"

1940
8/31/40 - Chicago Bears v Pittsburgh Steelers @ Erie, PA - visited Erie Library; no Sunday papers in 1940; no photos in Monday editions.
10/31/40 - Thursday, Philadelphia Eagles at Wilmington Clippers - Wilmington Park, Wilmington, DE

1941
8/19/41 - Chicago Bears @ Kenosha Cardinals
8/26/41 - Philadelphia Eagles @ Kenosha Cardinals
9/9/41 - Chicago Cardinals @ Kenosha Cardinals
9/23/41 - Cleveland Rams @ Kenosha Cardinals
10/5/41 - Sunday, Philadelphia Eagles at Providence Steam Roller - Pierce Memorial Field, Providence, RI

1942
8/21/42 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Cleveland Rams @ East Liverpool, OH - no photos in 8/22/42 East Liverpool paper
11/15/42 - Sunday, Chicago Cardinals at Wichita Aero Commandos - Lawrence Stadium, Wichita, KS - contact made w/ Wichita Library; no photos in local papers
11/22/42 - Sunday, Cleveland Rams at Wichita Aero Commandos - Lawrence Stadium, Wichita, KS - contact made w/ Wichita Library; no photos in local papers

1943
9/8/43 - NY Giants @ Sampson Naval Training Station @ Sampson, NY
9/12/43 - Brooklyn Dodgers v Camp Lee @ Camp Lee, VA
9/19/43 - Brooklyn Dodgers v New Brunswick All-Stars @ New Brunswick, NJ - no photo in the 9/20/43 New Brunswick paper
9/26/43 - NY Giants v Camp Lee @ Camp Lee, VA
11/28/43 - Sunday, Green Bay @ New London Diesels - Muzzy Field, Bristol, CT

1944
9/3/44 - Boston Yanks v Sampson Naval Training Station (@Sampson NY)
9/13/44 - NY Giants v Sampson Naval Training Station (@Sampson NY)
9/17/44 - Cleveland Rams v Sampson Naval Training Station (@Sampson NY)
9/23/44 - NY Giants @ Detroit Lions
10/1/44 - Washington Redskins @ Chicago Bears

1945
9/5/45 - Detroit Lions @ Windsor (ON) Rockets - Windsor Library says no photo in 9/6/45 newspaper

1946
8/30/46 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Newark Bombers @ Hershey
9/12/46 - NY Giants @ Jersey City Giants
9/17/46 - Boston Yanks v Long Island Indians @ Lynn, MASS

AAFC 1947
8/22/47 - Buffalo Bills v Baltimore Colts @ Hershey, PA

1947
8/22/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Bethlehem Bulldogs @ Erie PA
9/6/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Norfolk Shamrocks @ Wheeling WV - no photo in Wheeling newspaper
9/13/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Richmond Rebels @ New Kensington PA
9/17 /47 - Philadelphia Eagles @ Bethlehem Bulldogs
9/23/47 - NY Giants @ Jersey City Giants

Everything from 1948 forward has now been accounted for!

If any photos can be found relating to these games, we would appreciate them being posted on this thread.

A bit of advice...in conducting this search, many game photos have been found in newspapers printed 2 or 3 days after the game date.

KG Sat May 09, 2015 10:37 pm

I will see what I can find for the Vikings games at the local library newspaper films

KG Sat May 09, 2015 11:42 pm

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some sources state it is the 1988 regular season game other 1990 preseason note on the dolphins socks the writing which was NOT used in 1988 but in 1990 if it is 1990 it would not be a new combo

**Bill Schaefer** Sun May 10, 2015 7:50 am

Well, in 1990, Minnesota's #71 was DT Willie Fears.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/1990nflmin.html

In 1988, their #71 was guard Mark MacDonald.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/1988nflmin.html

I'm thinking this game is the 1988 meeting. If true, we'd need to add the "Dolphins" script to the 1988 socks.

KG Sun May 10, 2015 10:09 am

Gannon did play in the 88 game as well. when I look thru the newspapers I will still check this game (90 dolphins) out

KG Sun May 10, 2015 4:29 pm

I found pictures for 6 of the 7 games with the vikings. No picture for the Cincinnati game.
The games against the KC and NO. the picture printed out as x rays. let me know if you still want images of those. i will try to get all the pictures imaged and on the site at some point during the week.

Minn at Miami
white/white vs aqua/white looks like standard for both teams

Minn at NO
White/white vs black/gold looks standard for both

Minn at Cinn
??

Buff at Minn
white/white vs purple/white looks standard for both

KC at Minn
white/white vs purple/white looks standard

Minn at NE
white/white vs blue/gray looks standard 95 preseason look for new england picture has new england player see tv numbers on the shoulder

SD at MN
white/navy vs purple/white looks standard

KG Sun May 10, 2015 4:55 pm

Bill Schaefer wrote:Well, in 1990, Minnesota's #71 was DT Willie Fears.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/1990nflmin.html

In 1988, their #71 was guard Mark MacDonald.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/1988nflmin.html

I'm thinking this game is the 1988 meeting. If true, we'd need to add the "Dolphins" script to the 1988 socks.

that has to be from the 1988 game so the sox need to be updated I wonder about 89 and 87 as well

**Bill Schaefer** Sun May 17, 2015 12:15 pm

smith03 wrote:
I found pictures for 6 of the 7 games with the vikings. No picture for the Cincinnati game.
The games against the KC and NO. the picture printed out as x rays. let me know if you still want images of those. i will try to get all the pictures imaged and on the site at some point during the week.

Minn at Miami
white/white vs aqua/white looks like standard for both teams

Minn at NO
White/white vs black/gold looks standard for both

Minn at Cinn
??

Buff at Minn
white/white vs purple/white looks standard for both

KC at Minn
white/white vs purple/white looks standard

Minn at NE
white/white vs blue/gray looks standard 95 preseason look for new england picture has new england player see tv numbers on the shoulder

SD at MN
white/navy vs purple/white looks standard

Can you link us to any of these photos?

KG Sun May 17, 2015 1:42 pm

I can scan them sometime in the upcoming week and email them or post in the thread. do you want the 2 that printed off in "x-ray" format?

**Bill Schaefer** Sun May 17, 2015 4:06 pm

If we can tell what they wore, any version will do.

KG Tue May 19, 2015 12:40 pm

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KG Tue May 19, 2015 12:41 pm

KG Tue May 19, 2015 12:43 pm

wrong picture

KG Tue May 19, 2015 12:46 pm

KG Tue May 19, 2015 12:49 pm

KG Tue May 19, 2015 12:52 pm

KG Tue May 19, 2015 12:55 pm

KG Tue May 19, 2015 12:57 pm

hope you are able to see the pictures sorry about the olympic one

**timmyb** Tue May 19, 2015 10:17 pm

Thanks VERY much for this smith03. Quite helpful!!

KG Sun May 24, 2015 3:01 pm

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**Bill Schaefer** Wed May 27, 2015 5:35 pm

Very nice!
We'll delete those from the list!

RHolecko Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:56 am

Here's negatives of three photos posted as negatives:

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RHolecko Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:01 am

Although I'd kinda like to see these two teams play each other:

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KG Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:32 am

how are you able to reverse the newspapers?

**Bill Schaefer** Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:46 am

More additions added to the preseason - "need to find photos list for the 1970s"

bump

**Bill Schaefer** Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:40 pm

Provided by Mr. 'bigbluelarry' himself...

NYJ (monowhite) vs NYG (blue/white)