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Missing Games in Need of Photos

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:22 pm

***SCAN DOWN A FEW POSTS FOR A COMPLETE LIST DATING BACK TO 1932!***


Over in the "Preseason Missing games" thread, the third entry down lists all of the preseason games for which we have been unable to find photos.

While we are at it, let me remind you of our similar list for the NFL in the 1930s and '40s, the AAFC between 1946-49, and the USFL is missing only two games (both played in Arizona). These are all regular season games only.

Still unknown NFL:
1935 - 10/6 - PITT@GB
       - 10/9 (N) - PHIL@PITT
       - 12/1 - PITT@BOS
1936 - 9/27 - BOS@BRK
      - 10/25 - CHC@BRK
1937 - 9/26 - CHC@PHIL - green or white helmets for PHIL?
       - 10/31 - WASH@BRK - red or green combo for Brooklyn?
1939 - 11/6 (N) - PITT@BRK
        - 11/26 - CHB@CHC
1940 - 10/5 (N) – CHC@Det– white or red helmet for Cardinals?
1944 - 11/19 - CLE@CardPitt (in Chicago)– blue or yellow jerseys for Cleveland?
1948 – 10/9 (N) – BOS@DET – everything; DET's red/black year

Still unknown AAFC:
1946  - 10/11 (N) – CHI@BRK
        - 10/12 – CLE@NYY
                   - SF@LA
        - 10/19 (N) – BRK@NYY
                         - SF@BUF
         - 10/25 (N) – MIA@BRK
1948  - 10/10 – BRK@CLE

Still unknown for USFL:
1984 - 6/8 - JAX @ ARZ
1985 - 6/1 - SA @ ARZ


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1930s

Post  KG on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:20 pm

is the week by week going to be expanded to include the 1930s?
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Re: Missing Games in Need of Photos

Post  Bill Schaefer on Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:37 am

Eventually, we hope so. Maybe 1935-39. Before '35 there just isn't nearly enough photos available, even in big circulations like the NY Times and the Chicago Tribune.

But adding these won't even be on our radar until we get all of the waiting updates done. This is the research stage only.

***UPDATE***
We've found a way to access old printings of the Philly Inquirer and have found a number of missing Eagles games - but not all.
Those found have been deleted from the list.
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Post  Bill Schaefer on Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:34 pm

10/10/1948 - Brooklyn @ Cleveland (AAFC Week 7) - courtesy of Cleveland Public Library
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1934?

Post  KG on Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:40 pm

i notice 1934 has week by week with several MIAs
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Re: Missing Games in Need of Photos

Post  bigbluelarry on Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:03 am

Bill Schaefer wrote:Updated list:

Still unknown AAFC:
1946  - 10/11 (N) – CHI@BRK
        - 10/12 – CLE@NYY
                   - SF@LA
        - 10/19 (N) – BRK@NYY
                         - SF@BUF
        - 10/25 (N) – MIA@BRK

I'm taking a crack at these. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: Missing Games in Need of Photos

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:26 pm

We desperately need a source for the Brooklyn Dodgers. The Brooklyn Eagle did not provide much in the way of photo coverage for the Dodgers in the 30s.


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Re: Missing Games in Need of Photos

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:34 pm

I've added the missing games from 1932-34 as well.


Still unknown NFL:
1932 - 9/25 - BRK @SI
        - 10/2 - CHC@POR
        - 10/2 - CHB @SI
        - 10/9 - SI@ BRK
        - 10/16 - POR @SI
        - 10/20 - POR @SI
        - 11/6 - CHB @ NYG
        - 11/20 - BOS @ POR
        - 11/20 - CHC @SI
        - 11/24 - NYG @SI
        - 11/27 - CHB @ POR
        - 11/27 - GB @SI
        - 11/27 - NYG @ BRK
        - 12/11 - GB @ CHB (I have several photos from the Trib but they are too grainy to decipher anything)
- 9/25 - CHB@GB
- 10/9 - NYG @BOS
- 10/16 - CHC @ BOS
- 10/16 - BRK @ NYG
- 10/30 - CHB @ BOS
- 11/6 - SI@ BOS

1933 - 9/17 - CIN @ POR
        - 9/24 - NYG@ POR
        - 10/1 - CHC @ POR
        - 10/11 - CIN @ PITT
        - 10/22 - PITT @ CIN
        - 11/5 - PITT @ BRK
        - 11/5 - PHIL@ CIN
        - 11/26 - BOS @ BRK
        - 12/3 - CHB @ POR
        - 12/3 - BRK@ CIN
- 9/17 - BOS @ GB
- 10/8 - CHB @ BRK [article lists BRK in "Red & White" and CHB in "Orange & Black (sic - navy)"]
- 10/15 - PITT @ GB
- 10/15 - CIN @ BRK
- 10/15 - POR @ BOS
- 10/15 - PHIL @ NYG
- 10/22 - CHC @ BOS
- 10/29 - PITT @ BOS
- 11/5 - CHB @ BOS
- 11/12 - CIN @ CHC
- 11/19 - GB @ BOS
- 11/19 - BRK @ CHC
- 11/19 - POR@ CIN

1934 - 9/23 - CHC @ CIN
       - 9/30 - CHB @CIN
        - 10/3 (N) - NYG @ PITT
        - 10/7 (N) - CHC @ CIN
        - 10/10 (N) - CHB @ PITT
       - 10/22 (N) - BRK @DET
        - 10/28 - DET @ CIN
        - 10/28 - PITT @ BRK (No idea for PITT; article states BRK in Green helmets & jerseys)
        - 11/6 (N) CHC @ BRK
       - 11/11 - BRK @ PHIL
        - 11/25 - PHIL@ BRK
        - 12/2 - NYG @ PHIL
- 9/30 - BOS @ BRK
- 10/7 - NYG @ BOS
- 10/14 - BRK @ NYG
- 10/14 - CIN @ GB

1935 - 10/9 (N) - PHIL@PITT
- 10/6 - PITT@GB
- 12/1 - PITT@BOS

1936 - 10/25 - CHC@BRK
- 9/27 - BOS@BRK

1937 - 9/26 - CHC@PHIL - green or white helmets for PHIL?
- 10/31 - WASH@BRK

1939 - 11/6 (N) - PITT@BRK
        - 11/26 - CHB@CHC

1940 - 10/5 (N) – CHC@Det– white or red helmet for Cardinals?

1944 - 11/19 - CLE@CardPitt (in Chicago)– blue or yellow jerseys for Cleveland?

1948 – 10/9 (N) – BOS@DET – everything; DET's red/black year

Still unknown AAFC:
1946  - 10/11 (N) – CHI@BRK
        - 10/12 – CLE@NYY
                     - SF@LA
         - 10/19 (N) – BRK@NYY
                          - SF@BUF
         - 10/25 (N) – MIA@BRK
1948  - 10/10 – BRK@CLE


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Re: Missing Games in Need of Photos

Post  bigbluelarry on Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:23 pm

We have 10/15/33 Giants-Eagles.

Sending you an email.
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10/15/33

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:30 pm

10/15/33 - PHIL@NYG
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Also from 10/15/33...

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:38 pm

10/15/33 - Portsmouth at Boston
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11/19/33 - BRK @ CHC

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:43 pm

11/19/33 - Brooklyn @ Chicago Cardinals
Looks as though Brooklyn is wearing different jerseys that may require a new combo.
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10/8/33 - CHB @ BRK

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:32 pm

10/8/33 - CHB @ BRK
Except for the fact that the Bears' navy was mistaken for black...
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12/1/35 - PITT @ BOS

Post  Bill Schaefer on Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:40 pm

12/1/35 - PITT @ BOS
A kind man at the Boston Public Library supplied me with this beauty from the Boston Globe archive...
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9/17/33 - BOS@ GB

Post  Bill Schaefer on Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:15 pm

9/17/33 - BOS@ GB
It was right in front of me the whole time.
Just didn't bother to read the caption.
The player with the ball is a Packer.
The tacklers are Redskins.
The left arm of the front tackler has black at the end of his sleeve with a gold stripe on it.
This is surely the white-outlined Indian head jersey for Boston.
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11/12/33 - CIN @ CHC

Post  Bill Schaefer on Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:04 pm

11/12/33 - CIN @ CHC
Evanston (IL) Library was able to find this photo in the Chicago Defender.
Clearly it will require the addition of a white jersey combo for the 1933 Reds.

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Some Boston gems courtesy of Brad S & Genealogy.com...1932

Post  Bill Schaefer on Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:08 pm

10/9/32 - NYG @ BOS



10/16/32 - CHC @ BOS



10/30/32 - CHB @ BOS



11/6/32 - SI @ BOS



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Some Boston gems courtesy of Brad S & Genealogy.com...1933

Post  Bill Schaefer on Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:11 pm

10/22/33 - CHC @ BOS



10/29/33 - PITT @ BOS



11/5/33 - CHB @ BOS



11/19/33 - GB @ BOS



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One more Boston gem courtesy of Brad S & Genealogy.com...1934

Post  Bill Schaefer on Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:13 pm

10/7/34 - NYG @ BOS



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Hot Cincy Reds game action...

Post  Bill Schaefer on Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:42 pm

11/19/33 - Portsmouth @ Cincinnati
Cincy in mono-red again and Portsmouth in predictable purple/khaki.
(brought to you from the good people at the CPL using the Cincinnati Times-Star and the Cincinnati Post)


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10/14/34

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:06 pm

10/14/34 - BRK (grey jerseys with green shoulders and sleeves; grey helmets) @ NYG (red jerseys; white helmets)
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9/30/34

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:23 pm

9/30/34 - BOS @ BRK
NYT article states Brooklyn was in green jerseys.
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10/16/32

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:23 pm

10/16/32 - BRK @ NYG

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10/15/33

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:10 pm

10/15/33 - CIN @ BRK
Despite no photos, by combining the information from the NY Times and the Brooklyn Eagle, we have been able to determine that Brooklyn wore their 'front half red/back half white' uniforms and Cincinnati wore their white jerseys over red pants...

NYT


Brooklyn Eagle


NY Daily Herald provides us with...


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1933 Pittsburgh Pirates

Post  Bill Schaefer on Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:21 pm

This Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article reporting on the 11/12/33 Brooklyn @ Pittsburgh game, clearly announces that the Pirates are wearing their new black and yellow striped jerseys for the first time.



This means that all other Pirate games before 11/12/33 featured the Pirates wearing their typical 'city-crest' jerseys...
10/11 - CIN @ PITT
10/15 - PITT @ GB
10/22 - PITT @ CIN
11/5 - PITT @ BRK

The 10/15 GB game is solved since we now know Pittsburgh wore the 'city-crest' jerseys and the 1933 Packers featured only 1 combination.
We are still waiting to uncover Cincinnati's attire in two games and what Brooklyn wore 11/5.

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