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Post  PWalk Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:39 pm

Awesome site here gentlemen. I've been trolling uniwatch for years and very rarely comment over there. But this site is special. I'm currently in the middle of researching the extreme early days of the NFL with a focus on the uniforms. Specifically right now trying to lock down the Frankford Yellow Jackets, the pre-Eagles/ Philadelphia area team and their jerseys. In the process I've been turning up info on other teams like the Dayton Triangles, Pottsville Maroons, etc... that I'd love to share with you guys. I'm terrible at graphics but can give descriptions based on what I've found. If you interested just let me know.

Keep up the good work.


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Post  Bill Schaefer Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:14 pm

That sounds great, PWalk. I think that right now we'd like to lock down as much of the post-1933 era first. With the grand opening comes the inevitable avalanche of stuff to fix. I think when Tim gets around to reading your post, I'm sure he'll want to have several discussions on your topic. The best thing you can do is keep on doing what you're doing. We've encountered a bit of pre-33 stuff in our digging as well but I don't know if it duplicates anything you already have. It's not much but, if you go to the "ABOUT" link on the home page, you can email me your address directly and I can send you what I have accumulated from that time period. I scratch your back and you can scratch ours when you are further along. In order for me to make graphic representations, I would need as complete descriptions as possible on most of the 14 topics listed in our "ABOUT THE TEMPLATE." Good Luck and let me know what we can do for you on our end.
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Post  PWalk Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:35 am

Will do, let me get everything into a spreadsheet of sorts along with assorted images I have and I will shoot them over. I'm in the middle of trying to get clearance in Canton to view some collections currently not on display. As soon as I hear something I will post it up.

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Post  flanker1518 Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:16 pm

What a great site! I make customs for a hobby and I am wanting to do many of the old leather helmet players. I have many ref books, but it is hard to find good pictures of the early uniforms. I really want to make a Canton Bulldog Jim Thorpe. I have found a color photo, but I can't find anything that shows if they had numbers on the back of the uniforms. If they did, what was Jim's number. If anyone could help, I would greatly appreciate it. Pre 1933 Uniforms Jim_Thorpe_football

Thanks, Mark
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Post  LarryB Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:34 am

flanker, nice job on Marion Motley. How can I see your other work? Not many customizers do old school players.

Good question about Jim Thorpe's number if he had one for Canton. I bought a great book, The Sunday Game by Keith McClellan. You and others probably are aware of it. I looked quickly and did not see numbers listed for Canton. I am from Youngstown area and long ago there was the Youngstown Patricians. They have about them in this book too.

Sometimes it is hard to see players numbers on the back. I am sure you have checked out as many photos of Thorpe as you can. Also I know from being a college fan that players often changed numbers if they had them.

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Post  flanker1518 Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:53 pm

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If you sent me a pm, I can't read it. Here's the message I get when I click on my messages.

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Post  flanker1518 Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:58 pm

turned on my messages............got your message
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Post  Bill Schaefer Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:52 pm

flanker1518,
I dont know off-hand if this is a CB photo or not (or even where I got it from) but I've been keeping a folder of pre-1933 photo for when we do go to work on that era. Maybe this would help?
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Makes sense for that to be his number doesn't it?
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Post  flanker1518 Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:03 pm

Bill Schaefer wrote:flanker1518,
I dont know off-hand if this is a CB photo or not (or even where I got it from) but I've been keeping a folder of pre-1933 photo for when we do go to work on that era. Maybe this would help?
Pre 1933 Uniforms Jim_th10
Makes sense for that to be his number doesn't it?
Bill

Thanks Bill. Yes it does make sense that he's #1. I chose the the uni, in my photo, because I have found a colored version of it. The Hall of Fame football cards, Goal Line Art, are a great source for the colors of older uni's.
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Post  BogAl Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:37 pm

That picture is from the Rock Island Independents, either 1924 or 1925 (Thorpe's seasons with the team).

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Post  LarryB Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:52 pm

The caption says this was Jim Thorpe # 20 making the tackle.
Canton Bulldog's Jim Thorpe (20) shown bringing down one of the Buffalo's players. The score was Canton Bulldogs-7, Buffalo-3 at the Polo Grounds.

http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/U128559INP/jim-thorpe-tackling-player

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Post  flanker1518 Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:50 pm

LarryB wrote:The caption says this was Jim Thorpe # 20 making the tackle.
Canton Bulldog's Jim Thorpe (20) shown bringing down one of the Buffalo's players. The score was Canton Bulldogs-7, Buffalo-3 at the Polo Grounds.

http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/U128559INP/jim-thorpe-tackling-player

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LarryB, this is awesome! I have not been by this site in a long time. Thanks for finding this photo and thanks for sharing. I have not made many customs lately, but this might get me going again.
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Post  Bill Schaefer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:25 am

Thorpe with the Giants - year unknown. He looks to be wearing 21.
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Post  bigbluelarry Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:27 am

It's 1925, his only year with the Giants. He lasted just two games before he was released.

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