Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
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Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Is there a list of preseason games from roughly 1950 on that don't have uniform info, or has that already all been covered?
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
No we've haven't assembled any kind of list.
Most of the stuff that is labeled as 'preseason only' is stuff that we've just happened across. We notice something, do some digging, and POW - new stuff to add.
But, no, to the best of my knowledge no one is going out of their way to hunt for Preseason stuff.
Pro Football Archives lists all preseason, regular season, and post season games for all teams.
You can get a list of all games if you're interested.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/
Most of the stuff that is labeled as 'preseason only' is stuff that we've just happened across. We notice something, do some digging, and POW - new stuff to add.
But, no, to the best of my knowledge no one is going out of their way to hunt for Preseason stuff.
Pro Football Archives lists all preseason, regular season, and post season games for all teams.
You can get a list of all games if you're interested.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
As an amendment to my last entry...
Our own Tim Brulia has been painstakingly going through the preseasons. We are going to be adding a collection of preseason match-up pages similar to what we have for the regular seasons and playoffs.
Working backwards from 2012, Tim & I have found photos for almost every preseason game back to 1948.
Here is the list of preseason games that we do not have photos from...
"GAMES STILL MISSING - WITH RECENT FINDS DISCARDED"
1940
8/31/40 - Chicago Bears v Pittsburgh Steelers @ Erie, PA - visited Erie Library; no Sunday papers in 1940; no photos in Monday editions.
10/31/40 - Thursday, Philadelphia Eagles at Wilmington Clippers - Wilmington Park, Wilmington, DE
1941
8/19/41 - Chicago Bears @ Kenosha Cardinals
8/26/41 - Philadelphia Eagles @ Kenosha Cardinals
9/9/41 - Chicago Cardinals @ Kenosha Cardinals
9/23/41 - Cleveland Rams @ Kenosha Cardinals
10/5/41 - Sunday, Philadelphia Eagles at Providence Steam Roller - Pierce Memorial Field, Providence, RI
1942
8/21/42 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Cleveland Rams @ East Liverpool, OH - no photos in 8/22/42 East Liverpool paper
11/15/42 - Sunday, Chicago Cardinals at Wichita Aero Commandos - Lawrence Stadium, Wichita, KS - contact made w/ Wichita Library; no photos in local papers
11/22/42 - Sunday, Cleveland Rams at Wichita Aero Commandos - Lawrence Stadium, Wichita, KS - contact made w/ Wichita Library; no photos in local papers
1943
9/8/43 - NY Giants @ Sampson Naval Training Station @ Sampson, NY
9/12/43 - Brooklyn Dodgers v Camp Lee @ Camp Lee, VA
9/19/43 - Brooklyn Dodgers v New Brunswick All-Stars @ New Brunswick, NJ - no photo in the 9/20/43 New Brunswick paper
9/26/43 - NY Giants v Camp Lee @ Camp Lee, VA
11/28/43 - Sunday, Green Bay @ New London Diesels - Muzzy Field, Bristol, CT
1944
9/3/44 - Boston Yanks v Sampson Naval Training Station (@Sampson NY)
9/13/44 - NY Giants v Sampson Naval Training Station (@Sampson NY)
9/17/44 - Cleveland Rams v Sampson Naval Training Station (@Sampson NY)
9/23/44 - NY Giants @ Detroit Lions
10/1/44 - Washington Redskins @ Chicago Bears
1945
9/5/45 - Detroit Lions @ Windsor (ON) Rockets - Windsor Library says no photo in 9/6/45 newspaper
1946
8/30/46 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Newark Bombers @ Hershey
9/12/46 - NY Giants @ Jersey City Giants
9/17/46 - Boston Yanks v Long Island Indians @ Lynn, MASS
AAFC 1947
8/22/47 - Buffalo Bills v Baltimore Colts @ Hershey, PA
1947
8/22/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Bethlehem Bulldogs @ Erie PA
9/6/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Norfolk Shamrocks @ Wheeling WV - no photo in Wheeling newspaper
9/13/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Richmond Rebels @ New Kensington PA
9/17 /47 - Philadelphia Eagles @ Bethlehem Bulldogs
9/23/47 - NY Giants @ Jersey City Giants
Everything from 1948 forward has now been accounted for!
If any photos can be found relating to these games, we would appreciate them being posted on this thread.
A bit of advice...in conducting this search, many game photos have been found in newspapers printed 2 or 3 days after the game date.
Our own Tim Brulia has been painstakingly going through the preseasons. We are going to be adding a collection of preseason match-up pages similar to what we have for the regular seasons and playoffs.
Working backwards from 2012, Tim & I have found photos for almost every preseason game back to 1948.
Here is the list of preseason games that we do not have photos from...
"GAMES STILL MISSING - WITH RECENT FINDS DISCARDED"
1940
8/31/40 - Chicago Bears v Pittsburgh Steelers @ Erie, PA - visited Erie Library; no Sunday papers in 1940; no photos in Monday editions.
10/31/40 - Thursday, Philadelphia Eagles at Wilmington Clippers - Wilmington Park, Wilmington, DE
1941
8/19/41 - Chicago Bears @ Kenosha Cardinals
8/26/41 - Philadelphia Eagles @ Kenosha Cardinals
9/9/41 - Chicago Cardinals @ Kenosha Cardinals
9/23/41 - Cleveland Rams @ Kenosha Cardinals
10/5/41 - Sunday, Philadelphia Eagles at Providence Steam Roller - Pierce Memorial Field, Providence, RI
1942
8/21/42 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Cleveland Rams @ East Liverpool, OH - no photos in 8/22/42 East Liverpool paper
11/15/42 - Sunday, Chicago Cardinals at Wichita Aero Commandos - Lawrence Stadium, Wichita, KS - contact made w/ Wichita Library; no photos in local papers
11/22/42 - Sunday, Cleveland Rams at Wichita Aero Commandos - Lawrence Stadium, Wichita, KS - contact made w/ Wichita Library; no photos in local papers
1943
9/8/43 - NY Giants @ Sampson Naval Training Station @ Sampson, NY
9/12/43 - Brooklyn Dodgers v Camp Lee @ Camp Lee, VA
9/19/43 - Brooklyn Dodgers v New Brunswick All-Stars @ New Brunswick, NJ - no photo in the 9/20/43 New Brunswick paper
9/26/43 - NY Giants v Camp Lee @ Camp Lee, VA
11/28/43 - Sunday, Green Bay @ New London Diesels - Muzzy Field, Bristol, CT
1944
9/3/44 - Boston Yanks v Sampson Naval Training Station (@Sampson NY)
9/13/44 - NY Giants v Sampson Naval Training Station (@Sampson NY)
9/17/44 - Cleveland Rams v Sampson Naval Training Station (@Sampson NY)
9/23/44 - NY Giants @ Detroit Lions
10/1/44 - Washington Redskins @ Chicago Bears
1945
9/5/45 - Detroit Lions @ Windsor (ON) Rockets - Windsor Library says no photo in 9/6/45 newspaper
1946
8/30/46 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Newark Bombers @ Hershey
9/12/46 - NY Giants @ Jersey City Giants
9/17/46 - Boston Yanks v Long Island Indians @ Lynn, MASS
AAFC 1947
8/22/47 - Buffalo Bills v Baltimore Colts @ Hershey, PA
1947
8/22/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Bethlehem Bulldogs @ Erie PA
9/6/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Norfolk Shamrocks @ Wheeling WV - no photo in Wheeling newspaper
9/13/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Richmond Rebels @ New Kensington PA
9/17 /47 - Philadelphia Eagles @ Bethlehem Bulldogs
9/23/47 - NY Giants @ Jersey City Giants
Everything from 1948 forward has now been accounted for!
If any photos can be found relating to these games, we would appreciate them being posted on this thread.
A bit of advice...in conducting this search, many game photos have been found in newspapers printed 2 or 3 days after the game date.
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Vikings games
I will see what I can find for the Vikings games at the local library newspaper films
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maybe the 1990 vikings at dolphin
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some sources state it is the 1988 regular season game other 1990 preseason note on the dolphins socks the writing which was NOT used in 1988 but in 1990 if it is 1990 it would not be a new combo
some sources state it is the 1988 regular season game other 1990 preseason note on the dolphins socks the writing which was NOT used in 1988 but in 1990 if it is 1990 it would not be a new combo
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Well, in 1990, Minnesota's #71 was DT Willie Fears.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/1990nflmin.html
In 1988, their #71 was guard Mark MacDonald.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/1988nflmin.html
I'm thinking this game is the 1988 meeting. If true, we'd need to add the "Dolphins" script to the 1988 socks.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/1990nflmin.html
In 1988, their #71 was guard Mark MacDonald.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/1988nflmin.html
I'm thinking this game is the 1988 meeting. If true, we'd need to add the "Dolphins" script to the 1988 socks.
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it is possible
Gannon did play in the 88 game as well. when I look thru the newspapers I will still check this game (90 dolphins) out
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Vikings games
I found pictures for 6 of the 7 games with the vikings. No picture for the Cincinnati game.
The games against the KC and NO. the picture printed out as x rays. let me know if you still want images of those. i will try to get all the pictures imaged and on the site at some point during the week.
Minn at Miami
white/white vs aqua/white looks like standard for both teams
Minn at NO
White/white vs black/gold looks standard for both
Minn at Cinn
??
Buff at Minn
white/white vs purple/white looks standard for both
KC at Minn
white/white vs purple/white looks standard
Minn at NE
white/white vs blue/gray looks standard 95 preseason look for new england picture has new england player see tv numbers on the shoulder
SD at MN
white/navy vs purple/white looks standard
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Bill Schaefer wrote:Well, in 1990, Minnesota's #71 was DT Willie Fears.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/1990nflmin.html
In 1988, their #71 was guard Mark MacDonald.
http://www.profootballarchives.com/1988nflmin.html
I'm thinking this game is the 1988 meeting. If true, we'd need to add the "Dolphins" script to the 1988 socks.
that has to be from the 1988 game so the sox need to be updated I wonder about 89 and 87 as well
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
smith03 wrote:
I found pictures for 6 of the 7 games with the vikings. No picture for the Cincinnati game.
The games against the KC and NO. the picture printed out as x rays. let me know if you still want images of those. i will try to get all the pictures imaged and on the site at some point during the week.
Minn at Miami
white/white vs aqua/white looks like standard for both teams
Minn at NO
White/white vs black/gold looks standard for both
Minn at Cinn
??
Buff at Minn
white/white vs purple/white looks standard for both
KC at Minn
white/white vs purple/white looks standard
Minn at NE
white/white vs blue/gray looks standard 95 preseason look for new england picture has new england player see tv numbers on the shoulder
SD at MN
white/navy vs purple/white looks standard
Can you link us to any of these photos?
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i can scan them and send an email
I can scan them sometime in the upcoming week and email them or post in the thread. do you want the 2 that printed off in "x-ray" format?
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
If we can tell what they wore, any version will do.
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1991 Minnesota @ New Orleans

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wrong picture
wrong picture
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1992 Kansas City @ Minnesota

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1995 Minnesota At New England

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1996 San Diego at Minnesota

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hope this works
hope you are able to see the pictures sorry about the olympic one
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Thanks VERY much for this smith03. Quite helpful!!
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1991 Vikings at Bengals
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1989 Cincinnati at Minnesota
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Very nice!
We'll delete those from the list!
We'll delete those from the list!
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Here's negatives of three photos posted as negatives:






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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Although I'd kinda like to see these two teams play each other:


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newspapers
how are you able to reverse the newspapers?
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
More additions added to the preseason - "need to find photos list for the 1970s"
bump
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82 Minn at Den
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84 Phila at Minn
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