Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Cardinals-Rams in Salt Lake City, September 8, 1951...
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July 24, 1967
Based on a photo we received from Leo Strawn...

I set out to identify this game.
PFA does not list any preseason contests between DEN & KC for 1967 and 1968 - likely years this combo could have been worn by Denver.
HOWEVER...
It turns out that the teams did play each other on 7/24/67 in KC's 'fourth annual Grocery bowl.'
Here is the article from the KC Times...


I set out to identify this game.
PFA does not list any preseason contests between DEN & KC for 1967 and 1968 - likely years this combo could have been worn by Denver.
HOWEVER...
It turns out that the teams did play each other on 7/24/67 in KC's 'fourth annual Grocery bowl.'
Here is the article from the KC Times...

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2 Birmingham games discovered...
courtesy of our new friends at Auburn University! WAR EAGLE!
9/9/50 - DET v CHC @ Birmingham, AL

8/31/57 - DET v WASH @ Birmingham, AL

Todd also says that the other missing games played in Mobile and Birmingham did NOT feature photos in local papers for the next 3 days after the games.
These may never get ID'd.
9/9/50 - DET v CHC @ Birmingham, AL

8/31/57 - DET v WASH @ Birmingham, AL

Todd also says that the other missing games played in Mobile and Birmingham did NOT feature photos in local papers for the next 3 days after the games.
These may never get ID'd.
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A Memphis Motherlode...
A friend from high school was willing to do the digging in Memphis for us...(Thanks, SR!)
All games played in Memphis, TN.
9/3/55 - Chicago Bears vs Washington Redskins

9/21/56 - NY Giants vs Chicago Cardinals

8/6/66 - Chicago Bears vs Philadelphia Eagles

9/9/67 - Chicago Bears vs Philadelphia Eagles

8/18/73 - Baltimore Colts vs Detroit Lions

All games played in Memphis, TN.
9/3/55 - Chicago Bears vs Washington Redskins

9/21/56 - NY Giants vs Chicago Cardinals

8/6/66 - Chicago Bears vs Philadelphia Eagles

9/9/67 - Chicago Bears vs Philadelphia Eagles

8/18/73 - Baltimore Colts vs Detroit Lions

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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Here is an updated list of the missing preseason games for which we are actively searching...
[b]1940
8/31/40 - Chicago Bears v Pittsburgh Steelers @ Erie,PA
1942
8/21/42 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Cleveland Rams @ East Liverpool, OH
1943
9/8/43 - NY Giants @ Sampson Naval Training Station @ Sampson, NY
9/12/43 - Brooklyn Dodgers v Camp Lee @ Camp Lee, VA
9/19/43 - Brooklyn Dodgers v New Brunswick All-Stars @ New Brunswick, NJ
9/26/43 - NY Giants v Camp Lee @ Camp Lee, VA
1944
9/23/44 - NY Giants @ Detroit Lions
10/1/44 - Washington Redskins @ Chicago Bears
1945
9/5/45 - Detroit Lions @ Windsor (ON) Rockets
1946
8/30/46 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Newark Bombers @ Hershey
9/12/46 - NY Giants @ Jersey City Giants
9/15/46 - Detroit Lions @ Charlotte (NC) Clippers
9/17/46 - Boston Yanks v Long Island Indians @ Lynn, MASS
AAFC 1946
8/24/46 - LA Dons v San Francisco 49ers @ San Diego
AAFC 1947
8/22/47 - Buffalo Bills v Baltimore Colts @ Hershey, PA
1947
8/22/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Bethlehem Bulldogs @ Erie PA
9/6/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Norfolk Shamrocks @ Wheeling WV
9/13/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Richmond Rebels @ New Kensington PA
9/17 /47 - Philadelphia Eagles @ Bethlehem Bulldogs
9/23/47 - NY Giants @ JerseyCity Giants
[b]1940
8/31/40 - Chicago Bears v Pittsburgh Steelers @ Erie,PA
1942
8/21/42 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Cleveland Rams @ East Liverpool, OH
1943
9/8/43 - NY Giants @ Sampson Naval Training Station @ Sampson, NY
9/12/43 - Brooklyn Dodgers v Camp Lee @ Camp Lee, VA
9/19/43 - Brooklyn Dodgers v New Brunswick All-Stars @ New Brunswick, NJ
9/26/43 - NY Giants v Camp Lee @ Camp Lee, VA
1944
9/23/44 - NY Giants @ Detroit Lions
10/1/44 - Washington Redskins @ Chicago Bears
1945
9/5/45 - Detroit Lions @ Windsor (ON) Rockets
1946
8/30/46 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Newark Bombers @ Hershey
9/12/46 - NY Giants @ Jersey City Giants
9/15/46 - Detroit Lions @ Charlotte (NC) Clippers
9/17/46 - Boston Yanks v Long Island Indians @ Lynn, MASS
8/24/46 - LA Dons v San Francisco 49ers @ San Diego
AAFC 1947
8/22/47 - Buffalo Bills v Baltimore Colts @ Hershey, PA
1947
8/22/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Bethlehem Bulldogs @ Erie PA
9/6/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Norfolk Shamrocks @ Wheeling WV
9/13/47 - Pittsburgh Steelers v Richmond Rebels @ New Kensington PA
9/17 /47 - Philadelphia Eagles @ Bethlehem Bulldogs
9/23/47 - NY Giants @ JerseyCity Giants
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
This find is from Bill:
San Francisco vs Los Angeles Dons 8/24/47 from the San Francisco Examiner

link to full photo: https://i.imgur.com/hfFOIK3.jpg
San Francisco vs Los Angeles Dons 8/24/47 from the San Francisco Examiner

link to full photo: https://i.imgur.com/hfFOIK3.jpg
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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Two new finds from Bill.
Both are from the Steelers in 1946 - note that they are wearing their 1945 jerseys that do not have sleeve stripes:
8/23/46 @ Scranton (PA) Miners

link to full photo: https://i.imgur.com/iJwlNNd.jpg
9/15/46 @ Patterson (NJ) Panthers

Both are from the Steelers in 1946 - note that they are wearing their 1945 jerseys that do not have sleeve stripes:
8/23/46 @ Scranton (PA) Miners

link to full photo: https://i.imgur.com/iJwlNNd.jpg
9/15/46 @ Patterson (NJ) Panthers

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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Bill found this one.
Washington Redskins at Norfolk (VA) Shamrocks 9/15/42

Washington Redskins at Norfolk (VA) Shamrocks 9/15/42

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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Brooklyn Tigers vs Service All-Stars 10/2/44


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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Here are a few recent finds by Bill & I from the past few days:
Pittsburgh at Green Bay 8/25/39

Jersey City Giants at NY Giants 10/6/40


NY Giants at Kenosha Cardinals 8/31/41

Green Bay at Sampson Naval Training Station (NY) Bluejackets 9/7/44

NY Giants vs Fort Lee (VA) Travelers 9/30/45

Pittsburgh at Green Bay 8/25/39

Jersey City Giants at NY Giants 10/6/40


NY Giants at Kenosha Cardinals 8/31/41

Green Bay at Sampson Naval Training Station (NY) Bluejackets 9/7/44

NY Giants vs Fort Lee (VA) Travelers 9/30/45

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Major "White Whale" found!
Despite suffering a $10 1-day membership, I found 2 photos from the 8/24/46 SD Union-Tribune for the 49ers vs. Dons game played in San Diego.
Of note...
SF is wearing red jerseys with serifed font numbers. (They went sans-serifs on their red jerseys during the regular season.)
LA is wearing red/blue "spider-striped" leather helmets. (They wore plain red helmets during the regular season.)

Of note...
SF is wearing red jerseys with serifed font numbers. (They went sans-serifs on their red jerseys during the regular season.)
LA is wearing red/blue "spider-striped" leather helmets. (They wore plain red helmets during the regular season.)

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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
LA Rams vs Cleveland 8/28/53 from the LA Times.
This is just a great photo of Elroy Hirsch catching a TD pass while his torn jersey is falling off his body!

This is just a great photo of Elroy Hirsch catching a TD pass while his torn jersey is falling off his body!

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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Three new finds of exhibition games from 1942 featuring independent teams:
Ken Strong's All-Stars vs Brooklyn Dodgers 9/20/42 from the Central NJ Home News

Pittsburgh vs Fort Knox Soldiers 11/15/42 from teh Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Wilmngton Clippers vs Philadelphia 11/22/42 from the Wilmongton Morning News

Ken Strong's All-Stars vs Brooklyn Dodgers 9/20/42 from the Central NJ Home News

Pittsburgh vs Fort Knox Soldiers 11/15/42 from teh Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Wilmngton Clippers vs Philadelphia 11/22/42 from the Wilmongton Morning News

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Re: Missing Uniform Info on Preseason Games from 1950-Present?
Bill found this one.
AAFC Buffalo Bills vs Baltimore Colts 8/22/47 in Hershey, PA, from the Buffalo Evening News

AAFC Buffalo Bills vs Baltimore Colts 8/22/47 in Hershey, PA, from the Buffalo Evening News

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