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Post  Bill Schaefer on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:45 am

Back in the 1980s a number of teams (or maybe it was just the Jets, but I don't think so) wore pants like the ones Richard Todd has on in the 1983 AFC Championship Game in Miami. They have openings to display the belt all the way around the waste. I think these need to be featured for the correct teams and for the correct years. After all, we included logo belt-buckle covers for the Jets and Broncos - why not these?

Who else wore them and when??? I want to say the Patriots and Colts but I'm not sure.



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Post  Bill Schaefer on Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:19 pm

It appears that they wore that style since that combos inception in 1978...

Sept 17, 1978...


Oct 21, 1979...


Nov 16, 1980
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/rob-lytle-brushes-off-jet-sets-sail-on-key-gainer-for-news-photo/161980695

Dec 27, 1981 - AFC Wildcard


1982 Season - reference the AFC Championship Game above

Dec 10, 1983


Dec 7, 1986


Dec 20, 1987


Dec 18, 1988


Oct 1 1989

(* - Note that Dickerson has the same type of pants on also. Next to check would be the Colts.)

Dec 2, 1990 - normal pants design


It is a fact that this model of pants was worn by the Jets from 1978-1989.


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Post  Bill Schaefer on Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:38 pm

1980 = normal white belts


Nov 15, 1981 = normal blue belts


Sept 12, 1982


Nov 13, 1983


Nov 25, 1984


Dec 9, 1985


Oct 5, 1986


Dec 20, 1987 - NOTE - Chargers wearing these pants also!


Nov 13, 1988


Nov 12, 1989


Even the 1995 BLUE PANTS had this feature with a white belt...


OK, I'm getting tired of this. A not-so-quick glimpse through Getty reveals that this style of pants/belt was worn up through the 2003 season.
Jan 11, 2004


However for the 2004 season, they changed to match white belts with their white pants...
Dec 12, 2004


To sum up, the Colts wore this style of pants/belts from 1980-2003 and then switched to white belts for the 2004 season.


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Post  Bill Schaefer on Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:40 pm

Chargers need to be researched...
Dec 20, 1987

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Post  Bill Schaefer on Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:41 pm

Patriots need to be researched...
Dec 16, 1984

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Re: Unusual Pants (did that get your attention?)

Post  bigbluelarry on Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:05 pm

As I mentioned in the email I sent this morning, it appears that most of the AFC East wore this style at some point from the late 70's through the mid-to-late 80's.

Buffalo @ Miami (orange belts) 12/19/81


Buffalo @ Miami (aqua belts) 10/12/86


New England @ Miami 1/12/86 AFC Championship Game


Indianapolis @ Miami 9/14/86


Indianapolis @ Miami 9/15/85


New England @ Jets 9/21/87


Jets @ Miami 12/15/79




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Re: Unusual Pants (did that get your attention?)

Post  Bill Schaefer on Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:23 pm

Thanks Larry.
I guess our next additions to the research checklist will need to be the...
Patriots (at least 84-87)
Let's lock down these years.

We know...
NY Jets - 1978-1989
Colts - 1982-2003 (reg. blue in 1981, reg. white 2004-2011)
Dolphins - 1973-82 orange peek-a-boos
- 1983-88 aqua peek-a-boos
- 1989-96 reg. orange
- 1997 regular aqua
Chargers - 1985-2011
- white belts on white pants when worn with powder jerseys


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Post  bigbluelarry on Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:24 pm

Colts had this with both the white pants and the grey/silver.

Baltimore @ New England 9/4/83
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Post  bigbluelarry on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:45 pm

One side note here is the Dolphins belt colors do not match up with what is currently in the database.

Miami @ Cincinnati 11/20/77 orange belts


Miami @ San Diego 10/15/78 orange


Miami @ Washington 12/3/78 orange


Miami @ Atlanta 9/21/80 orange


Buffalo @ Miami 12/19/81 orange


Jets @ Miami 12/18/82 orange


Miami @ New England 11/13/83 aqua


Seattle @ Miami 12/31/83 Wild Card Playoff aqua


Seattle @ Miami 12/29/84 Divisional Playoff aqua


Pittsburgh @ Miami 1/6/85 AFC Championship aqua


Cleveland @ Miami 1/4/86 Divisional Playoff aqua


10/19/86 LA Raiders @ Miami aqua


Houston @ Miami 11/2/86 aqua


Miami @ Cincinnati 11/8/87 aqua


Green Bay @ Miami aqua


Miami @ Tampa Bay 10/30/88 aqua


Buffalo @ Miami 9/10/89 looks like normal pants w/orange belts




Indianapolis @ Miami 11/5/89 belts orange on white pants too


Pittsburgh @ Miami 11/26/89




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Re: Unusual Pants (did that get your attention?)

Post  bigbluelarry on Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:05 pm

The Chargers started with these in 1985, the first year with white pants:

Buffalo @ San Diego 12/1/85




Dallas @ San Diego 11/16/86


Cleveland @ San Diego 11/1/87


San Diego @ Miami 10/16/88


San Diego @ Washington 12/10/89


I haven't found much beyond this point...it's impossible to tell with the navy blue pants!

Houston Oilers @ San Diego 9/19/93



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Post  bigbluelarry on Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:59 pm

Baltimore / Indianapolis
Baltimore @ New England 9/6/81 pants normal, but belts are blue (database shows white)


Baltimore @ New England 9/4/83


Buffalo @ Baltimore 10/16/83


Indianapolis @ Miami 9/15/85


Indianapolis @ Atlanta 12/7/86


Indianapolis @ Miami 11/15/87


Indianapolis @ New England 11/22/87




Indianapolis @ New England 10/2/88 grey/silver trim gone, belt loops still open


Indianapolis @ Jets 10/1/89


Indianapolis @ Miami 11/5/89 {Dolphins belts orange again!}


Indianapolis @ LA Raiders 9/15/91


Indianapolis @ Buffalo 9/17/95


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Post  Bill Schaefer on Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:50 pm

So as far as I can tell for the Dolphins...
1977-1982 - orange 'peek-a-boo' belts
1983-1988 - aqua 'peek-a-boo' belts

(found 1988 photo here from Nov 27, 1988)


In 1989, the 1st year of the aqua pants, the Dolphins went to a regular orange belt for all combos.


Getty photos shows they continued to wear orange belts for all regular combos in 1990-96, as well. (NOT the 1994 throwback - aqua)

In 1997 they wore aqua belts with both white & aqua pants.

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Post  Bill Schaefer on Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:23 pm

Starting in 1985 the Chargers have continuously worn the 'peek-a-boo' belts up until 2011.
Even when they adopted the navy pants, they still had the same design going on as seen in this photo from the 1994 AFC Championship Game.


Even in 2006 when they began wearing the powder blues as an alternate, the peek-a-boo belt design is evident while wearing a white belt/


When they altered their uniforms in 2007, the peek-a-boos were still there.



Even in 2011, the last year pre-Nike, all three combo featured the peek-a-boos.


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Post  Bill Schaefer on Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:21 pm

Looks as though they also wore the style in 1973 (Dec 30)


in 1974 (DEC 21 - AFC Divisional Playoff)


and 1975 (DEC 14)


and in 1976 (Nov 28)


THEY DID NOT however WEAR THEM DURING THE 1972 PERFECT SEASON!
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Post  bigbluelarry on Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:44 pm

I'll get the Patriots started...it goes back prior to 1984, not sure how far yet...

St.Louis Cards @ New England 11/29/81


San Francisco @ New England 10/2/83


Cincinnati @ New England 10/14/84


New England @ Philadelphia 12/9/84


New England @ LA Raiders 1/5/86 Divisional Playoff


New England @ Miami 1/12/86 AFC Championship


St.Louis vs New England 8/2/86 Hall of Fame Game @ Canton


New England @ Denver 1/4/87 Divisional Playoff


New England @ Jets 9/21/87


Indianapolis @ New England 10/2/88


Jets @ New England 11/5/89


Seattle @ New England 9/20/92
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Post  bigbluelarry on Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:42 pm

Plugging a few holes in the timeline...

New England @ Oakland 12/18/76 Divisional Playoff


Jets @ New England 10/30/77


New England @ St.Louis Cards 9/10/78


Cleveland @ New England 9/1/80


New England @ Miami 1/8/83 Wild Card Playoff


BONUS - add Cincinnati to the list!
Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh 10/17/77 black belts


Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati 12/10/77 orange belts


Houston @ Cincinnati 10/29/78 orange belts
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Post  Bill Schaefer on Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:30 am

Just a guess but I bet NE's STOPPED at 1992 since they went to the new uniforms in 1993.
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Post  Bill Schaefer on Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:33 am

That Cincinnati situation needs more digging.
I find it odd that they would wear both white AND black belts in 1977.
I bet one of the photos is mis-labeled.
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Post  bigbluelarry on Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:40 am

Bill Schaefer wrote:That Cincinnati situation needs more digging.
I find it odd that they would wear both white AND black belts in 1977.
I bet one of the photos is mis-labeled.

Actually I think I noticed a definite pattern of black belts with white jerseys and orange belts with black jerseys. I'll look around some more as time allows.


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Post  bigbluelarry on Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:08 am

Cincinnati @ Atlanta 10/26/75


Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati 11/28/76


Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati 10/10/77


Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh 10/17/77


Miami @ Cincinnati 11/20/77


Cincinnati @ Minnesota 8/22/78 Pre Season




Pittsburgh @ Cincinnati 9/17/78




Houston @ Cincinnati 10/29/78


San Diego @ Cincinnati 11/1/79


Houston @ Cincinnati 9/28/80


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Post  Bill Schaefer on Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:43 am

Add 1970 to the list with these black belts worn for black jerseys...
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/defensive-tackle-bubba-smith-of-the-baltimore-colts-rushes-news-photo/98414376

...and 1971 for the black jerseys
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/safety-phil-wise-of-the-new-york-jets-covers-wide-receiver-news-photo/80032311

...and 1972 for both jerseys...
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/oakland-raiders-quarterback-daryle-lamonica-looks-to-throw-news-photo/88297168
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/cincinnati-bengals-running-back-essex-johnson-bursts-news-photo/81338275

...and 1973 for both jerseys
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/miami-dolphins-qb-bob-griese-watches-his-pass-travel-vs-news-photo/153916594
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/running-back-o-j-simpson-of-the-buffalo-bills-carries-the-news-photo/149554329

...and 1974 for both jerseys
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/defensive-lineman-mike-reid-of-the-cincinnati-bengals-runs-news-photo/80333150
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/wide-receiver-john-mcdaniel-of-the-cincinnati-bengals-news-photo/80333380

...and 1975 black jerseys
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/quarterback-ken-anderson-of-the-cincinnati-bengals-turns-to-news-photo/104949446

...and 1976 white jerseys
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/cincinnati-bengals-fullback-boobie-clark-looks-for-room-to-news-photo/76135051

...but 1979 white jerseys look to gone with orange belts
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/riley-odoms-of-the-denver-broncos-against-the-cincinnati-news-photo/162016994

...and 1980 looks to BOTH be orange belts
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/running-back-john-cappelletti-of-the-san-diego-chargers-news-photo/103749818
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/rookie-offensive-tackle-anthony-munoz-of-the-cincinnati-news-photo/143268111

The good news is it doesn't look like the style in question was worn in 1969...
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/cincinnati-bengals-paul-robinson-in-action-rushing-vs-news-photo/163688311

So to summarize the Bengals...
1969 - normal black belts
1970 - 1976 - new style pants/belts with black belts for all combos
1977 - 1978 - black belts worn in new style with white jersey combos
- orange belts worn in new style with black jersey combos
1979-1980 - orange belts worn with new style with both jersey combos.
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Post  Bill Schaefer on Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:07 pm

It appears that 1975 is the first appearance of the different style.


In 1974 they weren't there...


Of note, it seems they always used a blue belt, even when paired with the red pants in 1979-80


and from 1984-87 and 1990-92 (see in above posts)

Patriots summary...
New pants/belt style from 1975-1992 using blue belts only.
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Post  bigbluelarry on Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:58 pm

Cripes! This goes back further than we thought...the Jets wore this style going back to at least Super bowl III.

Jets vs Baltimore Super Bowl III 1/12/69


Jets @ San Diego 9/28/69


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Post  bigbluelarry on Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:01 pm

Some more early Jets...

eNew England @ Jets 10/29/67--- Jets wearing normal pants w/white belts


Jets @ San Diego 12/24/67


Oakland @ Jets 12/29/68 AFL Championship Game---Jets wearing "peel-a-boo" pants, bets are green


Jets @ San Diego 9/28/69


Cincinnati @ Jets 11/23/69


Oakland @ Jets 11/30/69


Oakland @ Jets 12/6/70


Jets @ Baltimore 12/19/70


Kansas City @ Jets 11/7/71 {Jets with a rare WAH for this era}


Jets @ Miami 11/19/72




St.Louis @ Jets 11/23/75


Jets @ New England 12/7/75


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Post  Bill Schaefer on Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:01 am

<SIGH>

OK, so it looks like we need to add 1968-78 Preseason to the list.
I had originally started at the 1978 regular season when the Jets unveiled there new uniforms.

I guess this makes the Jets the originators of the style, right?

Another thing, Larry...
Your 1967 photos show white belts.
How far back was it that they began the white belts?
Surely not the 1st 2 years as the Titans, but after that...?
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