Eastern Association Teams

Eastern Association

Baltimore Bandits (2020 Expansion)
Boston Stars
Brooklyn Mariners
Cleveland Bearcats
Harrisburg Bulldogs
Montreal Machine
Philadelphia Union (relocated from Delaware)
Providence Steamroller
St. John's Stingers
Staten Island Swordfish
Steel City Express (Pittsburgh, PA)
Toledo Snipers

What're the ownership status on these teams?

92Mafia wrote:What're the ownership status on these teams?

Stay tuned... I'm in the process of getting it all together.

Baltimore Bandits

2020 Expansion team
Owner: 92Mafia

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Brooklyn Mariners

2014: 6th Place in E.A. (6-6-1)
Owner: Brady Ivie

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Boston Stars

Previous UWFFL Team
Status: rbronish

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Cleveland Bearcats

2014: tied 8th Place in E.A. [5-8]
Owner: Drew Abernathy

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Harrisburg Bulldogs

2014: tied 8th Place in E.A. [5-8]
Status: Available

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Montreal Machine

2014: 7th Place in E.A. (6-7)
Owner: Rafael Menoncin

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Philadelphia Union

Relocated from Delaware
2014: tied for 7th Place in Metro South (5-7-1)
Owner: Curtis Peddle

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Providence Steam Roller

2014: 12th Place in E.A. (1-10-2)
Owner: Rob Holecko

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Staten Island Swordfish

2014: tied for 1st Place in EA (12-1)
Lost to Youngstown in EA Championship
Owner: Curtis Peddle

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St. John's Stingers

2014: 4th Place in EA (8-5)
Lost to Staten Island in EA Semifinals
Owner: Curtis Peddle

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Steel City Express

Renamed from the Swisshelm Express
Based in Pittsburgh, PA
2014 5th Place in E.A. (6-5-2)
Owner: Austin Snelick

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Toledo Snipers

2014: 3rd Place in EA (8-4-1)
Lost to Youngstown in EA Semifinals
Owner: Curtis Peddle

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Rob Holecko wrote:Baltimore Bandits ... 2020 Expansion team... status Available

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One of my old Developmental League franchises, unfortunately a victim to the " Peddle " rule. A great franchise for someone to pick up..a lot of potential both on the field and on MS Paint.

Rob Holecko wrote:St. John's Stingers ... 2014 4th Place in EA (8-5), lost to Staten Island in EA Semifinals... Owner: Curtis Peddle

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Hometown team...I hope they do well I got big plans for them..big I tell ya ...Big !

Rob Holecko wrote:Toledo Snipers ... 2014 3rd Place in EA (8-4-1), lost to Youngstown in EA Semifinals... Owner: Curtis Peddle

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Could do some damage in the league this year.

Considering how many teams you have right now, I fear there will be many victims of the Peddle rule in 2021.... some people are going to get to take over some good teams!

Rob Holecko wrote:Staten Island Swordfish ... 2014 tied for 1st Place in EA (12-1), lost to Youngstown in EA Championship... Owner: Curtis Peddle

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12-1 and flopped in the big game. Back with a new coaching staff. good to see these great unis dusted off. Maybe a victim to the " Peddle" rule, we`ll see.

I'll take BMore then! Might update them too if its ok with you Curtis.

Rob Holecko wrote:

Cleveland Bearcats

2014: tied 8th Place in E.A. [5-8]
Status: Available

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This team is from the old google groups. I think the guy who owned them was named Clarence .

Yes Clarence owned it, it is available now. Most of the owners from those days did not reply to emails announcing the UWFFL's return.

92Mafia wrote:I'll take BMore then! Might update them too if its ok with you Curtis.

Yes go ahead !! Anxious to see you develop this. That logo was a strange one, one I came up with off the top of my head one night sipping on a Strontium 90. The numbers are the Washington Capitals font that I got from a hockey concepts group.

92Mafia wrote:I'll take BMore then! Might update them too if its ok with you Curtis.

Also if you need the font template etc. I still have this design on a USB and can send to you. Let me know if you need anything.

Rob Holecko wrote:

Montreal Machine

2014: 7th Place in E.A. (6-7)
Owner: Rob Holecko

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If Rob allows, I would love to bring back the glory days at Montreal's Olympic stadium!

You may absolutely adopt this team, yes sir!

Curtis wrote:

92Mafia wrote:I'll take BMore then! Might update them too if its ok with you Curtis.

Also if you need the font template etc. I still have this design on a USB and can send to you. Let me know if you need anything.

Sure man sure! Anything to help would be greatly appreciated!

I see the "Peddle Rule" in here a lot. What is it?

At one point (I'm not going to name any names here, lol) but we had a participant who just started making team after team after team.  Of course it was within the rules at the time.  So then around 2015 or so whenever the league started to lose some momentum, we decided to phase in a rule that would limit the amount of teams at some point, however we didn't want to totally remove all the additional teams that owners had as they were a good percentage of the teams, or change things unfairly for people that were at one point not against the rules.

So basically that's the rule which will take full effect in Fall 2021 that owners may only have one team in each Division II league.  Any teams that finish above .500 are guaranteed a spot to return and if an owner has more than one team he will need to realign them so he only has a maximum of four Division II teams, no more than one in each league.  If they have more than that, the other teams will revert to league control and be eligible to be adopted by others.  (The owner will be given the option of which team to keep)  There will be no limit to the amount of teams you can have earn their way into the Premier League, however.

My goal is to have 12 active (different people) owning teams in each of the Division II leagues in 2021.  If more people than that are interested in joining then we will limit ownership further as necessary (or expand), but any rule changes after this, will "grandfather-in" people's current teams that exist under this new rule.  (i.e. if 92Mafia  enters 4 teams, one in each Division II league in 2021, and then in 2022 we change the rule so that owners may only have 2 new Division II teams, he can keep his four existing teams, while new expansion candidates could only enter 2 teams.  If the rule stays the same, and say one of 92Mafia's teams is promoted to Premier League, then he could create a 4th team in 2021, preferably in the geographic region that the promoted team was from.  But with that new rule, if one of his four was promoted, he could not replace it with a new team, of course.)

At any rate we are trying to create a balanced, competitive league that doesn't have one person having too many teams, yet we want to establish this format like it is with this two-level pyramid format, presently 60 teams, 12 in premier & 48 in Division II, (plus the other leagues), and while the reality is we don't have 60 different people to run those teams at this point.  But with our method, we'll always have room to welcome new members, with Division II teams below .500 not being guaranteed to return, our long, long term goal would be to have 60 different owners for those 60 teams (excepting of course owners that have earned multiple teams into Premier), and with the more interest that is shown by new members joining through expansion each year, we would either A.) be more strict with rules like this and limit multiple team ownership further, or B.) we would expand Division II to 16 teams.

How we make these rules and evolve them of course depends on how much interest and demand there is on people wanting to participate.  It will be exciting, to me, to see how it evolves.

And also if we get a nucleus of more active, participating, members, it's not out of the question to expand the size of the Premier League either.

Rob Holecko wrote:You may absolutely adopt this team,  yes sir!

So it's official, the Montreal team has a new owner!

Here's other uniforms for Montreal if you want:

Click to enlarge



And here's the uniform they wore in a 2014 Maple Leaf Cup game:



Patch for 2014 Maple Leaf Cup:

Rob Holecko wrote:At one point (I'm not going to name any names here, lol) but we had a participant who just started making team after team after team.  Of course it was within the rules at the time.  So then around 2015 or so whenever the league started to lose some momentum, we decided to phase in a rule that would limit the amount of teams at some point, however we didn't want to totally remove all the additional teams that owners had as they were a good percentage of the teams, or change things unfairly for people that were at one point not against the rules.

So basically that's the rule which will take full effect in Fall 2021 that owners may only have one team in each Division II league.  Any teams that finish above .500 are guaranteed a spot to return and if an owner has more than one team he will need to realign them so he only has a maximum of four Division II teams, no more than one in each league.  If they have more than that, the other teams will revert to league control and be eligible to be adopted by others.  (The owner will be given the option of which team to keep)  There will be no limit to the amount of teams you can have earn their way into the Premier League, however.

My goal is to have 12 active (different people) owning teams in each of the Division II leagues in 2021.  If more people than that are interested in joining then we will limit ownership further as necessary (or expand), but any rule changes after this, will "grandfather-in" people's current teams that exist under this new rule.  (i.e. if 92Mafia  enters 4 teams, one in each Division II league in 2021, and then in 2022 we change the rule so that owners may only have 2 new Division II teams, he can keep his four existing teams, while new expansion candidates could only enter 2 teams.  If the rule stays the same, and say one of 92Mafia's teams is promoted to Premier League, then he could create a 4th team in 2021, preferably in the geographic region that the promoted team was from.  But with that new rule, if one of his four was promoted, he could not replace it with a new team, of course.)

At any rate we are trying to create a balanced, competitive league that doesn't have one person having too many teams, yet we want to establish this format like it is with this two-level pyramid format, presently 60 teams, 12 in premier & 48 in Division II, (plus the other leagues), and while the reality is we don't have 60 different people to run those teams at this point.  But with our method, we'll always have room to welcome new members, with Division II teams below .500 not being guaranteed to return, our long, long term goal would be to have 60 different owners for those 60 teams (excepting of course owners that have earned multiple teams into Premier), and with the more interest that is shown by new members joining through expansion each year, we would either A.) be more strict with rules like this and limit multiple team ownership further, or B.) we would expand Division II to 16 teams.

How we make these rules and evolve them of course depends on how much interest and demand there is on people wanting to participate.  It will be exciting, to me, to see how it evolves.

And also if we get a nucleus of more active, participating, members, it's not out of the question to expand the size of the Premier League either.

HAHA, its an honor to have an official " Rule " named after me. I believe that may give me some pull in this league..I think..so I am proposing this..I propose that a " CP " memorial decal be worn on the back of the helmets ( or a patch on the jersey..commissioners choice) of my teams that fall victim to the " Peddle rule " going forward. Mr Commissioner what say you ? See below

LOLOLOLOL okay... on the helmet though, not a jersey patch

Rob Holecko wrote:LOLOLOLOL   okay... on the helmet though, not a jersey patch

Perfect..and I know your a man of your word.

Curtis wrote:Perfect..and I know your a man of your word.

I hope I am, and I try to be, but I get in over my head so if I'm forgetting anything remind me!

Rob Holecko wrote:LOLOLOLOL   okay... on the helmet though, not a jersey patch

Ok here`s what its gonna look like. And to avoid the Harold Ballard 70s  Maple Leafs scenario ( he refused to put names on jerseys as per the NHL rule. He conceded but made the names the same color as the jersey so you couldn`t see them) I am creating a white decal for use on black helmets. I would also like some media publicity regarding this on the next Dick Schaefer show, or on some Dick Schafer show..commissioners choice.

Which teams are actually owned in this league? Curtis has a number of them to his name, but I'm not sure which is his actual team.

With the current rules, I think I'll try to own one team in each league, under the Snelick Ownership Group.

Those that have his name are all his for now, as the Peddle rule will go into effect in Fall 2021.  So it depends on which team(s) he decides to keep if more than 4 overall finish above .500 (or don't get promoted).

But he might decide to relinquish a team before then if someone asks him.   (Like Rafael asked me if he could have Montreal)    From his comment it looks like St. John's is the one in the East he is most strongly connected to and wouldn't give up.   But for instance if the Stingers are promoted to Premier then of course he could choose to keep Staten Island in EA in the Fall.

And yes I'd of course like to see you have four teams, one in each league as well.

But as of right now, St. John's, Staten Island, Toledo and Philadelphia are all his. And in the Fall he will only be allowed to have one of those in the Eastern Association.

Rob Holecko wrote:Those that have his name are all his for now, as the Peddle rule will go into effect in Fall 2021.  So it depends on which team(s) he decides to keep if more than 4 overall finish above .500 (or don't get promoted).

But he might decide to relinquish a team before then if someone asks him.   (Like Rafael asked me if he could have Montreal)    From his comment it looks like St. John's is the one in the East he is most strongly connected to and wouldn't give up.   But for instance if the Stingers are promoted to Premier then of course he could choose to keep Staten Island in EA in the Fall.

And yes I'd of course like to see you have four teams, one in each league as well.

But as of right now,  St. John's,  Staten Island, Toledo and Philadelphia are all his.  And in the Fall he will only be allowed to have one of those in the Eastern Association.

Okay. I will say, the Stingers are a great looking team, probably the best in the Eastern Association, by my opinion.

I'll take over the Swisshelm Express, but I may alter them a bit (logos aren't very clear), and change the name, or at least the city name to Pittsburgh.

I think I have more info on the Swisshelm Express... Basically we designed that team based a on a whole concept in a Uni Watch article but then he didn't want to join the league.

So yes, that's fine you can do as you wish. Now there is another Pittsburgh team in the Continental League ... (an original TBFFL team, the Pittsburgh Gators) so that's why we kept that name.

But you are free to do as you'd like with it, including another Pittsburgh named team if you'd so desire.

Rob Holecko wrote:I think I have more info on the Swisshelm Express...  Basically we designed that team based a on a whole concept in a Uni Watch article but then he didn't want to join the league.

So yes, that's fine you can do as you wish.   Now there is another Pittsburgh team in the Continental League ... (an original TBFFL team, the Pittsburgh Gators) so that's why we kept that name.

But you are free to do as you'd like with it, including another Pittsburgh named team if you'd so desire.

Okay, I'll think of something. May be Pittsburgh in the name, may not be. Something like Steel City ... , or Three Rivers ... .
When do you need uniforms by for these teams?

Rob Holecko wrote:https://uni-watch.com/2013/05/03/uni-watch-diy-project-building-a-better-helmet/

Well, that's actually a pretty nice logo there. I could build a uniform off of this.

Yea all the good design stuff with this team was that guys...  The uniform we basically took the Steelers and gave them white pants and that was it. (and the teal on the sleeve stripes)

The Swisshelm Express will rename themselves the Steel City Express. Colors will remain the same, and the logo will receive a slight update to reflect the name change.



I'll be working on a home and away uniform set in the meantime.

Steel City Express .. very nice, I like it! ... and I just saw your question about when do I need the uniforms... For all these teams if we want to make the changes for this 2020 season, which is fine, then ASAP and I'll just swap them out retroactively whenever you get them to me, but for the full uniform set for this Fall I'd just say by mid-summer is fine. Of course I only need a home and away for Fall 2020.

Rob Holecko wrote:Steel City Express .. very nice, I like it!  ... and I just saw your question about when do I need the uniforms... For all these teams if we want to make the changes for this 2020 season, which is fine, then ASAP and I'll just swap them out retroactively whenever you get them to me, but for the full uniform set for this Fall I'd just say by mid-summer is fine.  Of course I only need a home and away for Fall 2020.

Okay, good to know, in the case of the other teams I'd like to own.

As for the Express ...

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Kind of a combines Steelers/Pirates with some Express flair

Cleveland Bearcats... I know I'm loaded up... But with the history of the Santo or teams in Cleveland...


Should I?

You can have as many as you want this season but in the Fall you can only have 4 Division II teams so go for it!