The Gridiron Uniform Database Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

1963 Boston Patriots

5 posters

Go down

1963 Boston Patriots Empty 1963 Boston Patriots

Post  Rob Holecko Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:39 am

According to Uni Watch article Jan. 16 2007, the 1963 Patriots had a game (or at least one player in that game) where Pat the Patriot wasn't on the helmet (or at least one side of the helmet)

1963 Boston Patriots Allworth

Do we want to depict that? Does it matter if we don't know if it was everybody or just that one guy? (Like with the Jets thing with the stolen jerseys, can or should we say, at least one player had this helmet?)
Rob Holecko
Rob Holecko

Posts : 709
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 49

Back to top Go down

1963 Boston Patriots Empty Re: 1963 Boston Patriots

Post  Bill Schaefer Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:00 pm

If its one guy, no. That's akin to December games in Chicago when the 'wishbone-C' comes off one side due to contact in frigid weather. Do we then show a variation with only 1 C on a helmet?

If we can confirm that the whole team went 'sans Pat' in the game, then I say yes.
Bill Schaefer
Bill Schaefer

Posts : 1296
Join date : 2011-06-11
Age : 52
Location : Bradenton, FL

Back to top Go down

1963 Boston Patriots Empty Re: 1963 Boston Patriots

Post  Rob Holecko Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:06 pm

Okay I'll mention it on the blog tomorrow and see if we can get some feed back as to whether it was it was the whole team or just #56. (And also whether it was both sides or just one as in the Steelers) Or maybe it was a preseason. I saw some others we have with blank helmets 63 Jets, 70 Dolphins, so this isn't unprecedented...
Rob Holecko
Rob Holecko

Posts : 709
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 49

Back to top Go down

1963 Boston Patriots Empty Re: 1963 Boston Patriots

Post  timmyb Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:01 pm

According to profootballarchives.com, the only site I know that has preseason/exhibition games for ALL pro football teams, the Pats played at Balboa Stadium three times in 1963. The AFL Championship Game we know about. The other two were a Saturday night (preseason) August 10th where the Past were thumped 50-17, and the other was also a Saturday night (regular season), September 14th, losing a close one, 17-13.

It is quite possible, especially the August game, that the Patriots went decalless. I'd just like to know which game this was.

timmyb

Posts : 143
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 66
Location : Enola, PA

Back to top Go down

1963 Boston Patriots Empty Re: 1963 Boston Patriots

Post  Rob Holecko Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:15 am

Oh, shoot, I forgot to mention it today -- I'd do it Tuesday.
Rob Holecko
Rob Holecko

Posts : 709
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 49

Back to top Go down

1963 Boston Patriots Empty Re: 1963 Boston Patriots

Post  BD Sullivan Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:53 pm

Pure conjecture:

In 1963, the Patriots first two exhibition games were on the West Coast (Oakland and San Diego); the SD game, as noted before, was played on 8/10. Just four days after that game with the Chargers, the Pats hosted the Oilers in nearby Lowell, MA. A game account of the SD contest also said that Pats head coach Mike Holovak "makes heavy use of rookies." Could the quick turnaround time between games two and three have played a factor in the helmet decision, or did they only give the rookies the blank helmets. Admittedly, these are weak theories, but I suppose every little bit of info helps.

BD Sullivan

Posts : 215
Join date : 2011-06-24

Back to top Go down

1963 Boston Patriots Empty Re: 1963 Boston Patriots

Post  Mako Mameli Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:18 pm

timmyb wrote:I'd just like to know which game this was.

Following the link provided by Paul Lukas in his article I visited the site devoted to the history of San Diego.
You can find the photo in this page

http://www.sandiegohistory.org/collections/sports/football.htm

Chargers' Lance Allworth #19, runs vs. Boston patriots August 10th, 1963

So, at least we know it was preseason (if we trust the site...)

Mako Mameli

Posts : 148
Join date : 2011-06-13

Back to top Go down

1963 Boston Patriots Empty Re: 1963 Boston Patriots

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum